Dave, you can get this slightly phasing sound when a piano is
slightly out of tune. Some of this can be fixed by tuning all of
the strings so that when you play a given note, on it's own, it
sounds clear and dead. Meaning, no unisons out of tune on a note
and no phasing unisons from strings on the note at all. Of course,
every piano is different and some pianos suffer from vary bad
phasing. in other words, there can be other harmonics on the
strings that you just can't get rid of. that may be what I was
hearing in this particular piano over all but, that won't account
for the 6th D as that's just out of tune.
Regards, Phil Muir
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:04 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Phasing on Pianos
Phil,
You mentioned this in terms of the tuning. Can you give me a
spot-on education on what you mean when you say you've never been
wild about phasing on pianos? What does the phasing do to the
sound, tone, and/or tuning?
Dave
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From: <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:11
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano
O yeh. Still smiling here! Still don't like the 6th D, being
particularly out of tune when compared to the rest of the
instrument. When tuning pianos at college, I would have been made
to tune that note again and rightly so. To me, that makes the
whole thing sound inconsistent. Not personally keen on the phasing
of the sound. That's what I love about sound. One mans greatest
piano ever is another mans out of tune out of phase sounding piano,
smile. Of course, this is coming from someone who's a piano tuner
so, I am never wild about phasing on pianos anyway.
Regards, Phil Muir
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano
Hi Phil,
I too notice tuning issues and the phasing sound when notes were held.
This maybe deliberate as the phasing didn't sound digital, plus,
they seem to have chosen a piece of music that had a lot of held
chords almost pointing out the phasing quality.
The imperfections made it sound like a real piano.
I also slightly detune instruments in my horn section to create a
more believable horn section sound.
The problem with some of these other pianos, is they sometimes
sound too pure, all real pianos have their faults whether it be
tuning issues or just that the notes resonate too long...
I could hear the body of this piano like someone was sitting at it,
not triggering it from a mother keyboard.
One other thing I liked about this piano when taking a quick look
at spec, it isn't 70GB like the Quantum Leap Piano, I believe this
virtual piano is only 6GB.
That's my personal take on it, the question is, is Phil still smiling ha ha.
Seriously Phil, I must thank you for your work with Superior, had a
storming gig last Week and the dance floor had people on it from
the second song of the night.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:18 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano
Wasn't epersonally that impressed with this myself. It didn't
entirely sound in tune. I could hear a slight phasing on the notes
and as for the 6th D, it's frankly, out of tune.
Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:05 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano
Wow Kevin,
If I hadn't been told that it was a Virtual piano, I would have
just excepted that it was a quality recorded piano.
There's some great products that work with Kontakt, such ashame
these companies don't have these products using Dimension Pro.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>Kevin Gibbs
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:45 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Amazing virtaul piano
No idea whetehr this is accessible. It does sound amazing.
Kevin,
http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html
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