[ddots-l] Re: SV: cakewalk v studio 700
- From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:45:49 -0400
The ProjectMix control surface function uses Mackie Control, so it sucks for
the same reasons as any other interface that uses Mackie Control.
Both the FW1884 and the ProjectMix have 8 built-in pres, and you can add
another 8 with their ADAT ports.
The FW1884 pres aren't horrible, but I don't particularly like them, either.
You can always use something on the ADAT port, so the pres aren't a big deal.
The FW1884 is still the best in terms of controlling Sonar. No matter what you
get, you'll have to compromise something, unless you want to buy one surface
for Sonar and another for PT. In that case, get the FW1884 and the 003. That
combo will cost you about $3,500, though. The ProjectMix is the only unit that
does a fair job at both. The PT support is perfect (control surface and audio
interface), but Sonar is Mackie Control. That's the best you can do with one
unit, though.
Bryan
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:27 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: SV: cakewalk v studio 700
So if I wanted to integrate with pt, this would be the way to go? How bad is
the sonar support? If I was to go strictly sonar, would you recommend this one,
or something else? What others are worth looking at? I'm after at least
12 to 16 channels, and a good noise floor, and possibly some good enough
preamps for laying down a few tracks of vocals/instruments if need be. I've
heard great things about the fw1884, but I've heard and sort of had experience
with the tascam preamps to know that they're not top quality; well at leas on
my cheap us122 they weren't. But I guess you can't get it all in one package
lol. Later on this year I'll be upgrading from my faithfull delta1010lt as it's
really leaving me behind in terms of I/O, so I'm starting my research early.
Not sure if I should go for a control surface or if I'd be better off with an
audio interface and some sort of separate controller desk on the side.
THX, D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:42 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: SV: cakewalk v studio 700
It is better built than the FW1884, but the control panel's accessibility, and
its Sonar support, are worse.
If you want to use Sonar and Pro Tools with the same surface, though, you need
to use the ProjectMix. I haven't found anything else that works well with both.
Bryan
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:01 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: SV: cakewalk v studio 700
Hey Bryan, I've been hearing about the project mix, what are your thoughts on
it?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:48 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: SV: cakewalk v studio 700
Sorry, I can't help. The V-Studio was kind of out of my budget. It really
annoyed me that, as a Cakewalk user going all the way back to the Pro Audio
days, they were basically going to make me re-buy Sonar Producer. Plus, the
package included features that I don't need. Who in their right mind, building
a huge modern DAW, would think that paying big bucks for a unexpandable module
version of the Roland Fantom would be a good idea? I'm trying to get *away*
from hardware synths. The last thing that I want to do right now in Sonar is
spend time tracking in external hardware synths. So, re-buy Sonar Producer
(which I already own), and get a crippled Fantom XR (which I don't need), all
for the insane price of more than $4,000. I'll pass. I could have bought an
FW1884, a real Fantom XR, and saved over a thousand bucks.
Plus, I needed something that was Pro Tools compatible, and the Cakewalk stuff
isn't. I ended up getting a ProjectMix. I got a good deal on mine, but, even if
you paid retail, you can get them for around $1,400.
Cakewalk was smoking something really good when they dreamed up and priced the
V-Studio stuff. Hardly anyone wants a crippled Fantom XR module, but I think
they had to put that in so that Roland could make some money off of the
V-Studio. I don't know what the deal was with forcing Sonar customers to re-buy
Sonar, though. The whole thing just seemed pretty insulting to me.
Bryan
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dennis Madsen
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:22 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] SV: cakewalk v studio 700
Hi Lenn!
I am using the V100 as a console for 8.5 it works but at the moment i have som
slider volume control problems. I have never used it together with the V100
software, so i do not know how it works as a complete product. I hope to make
more use of the input section controle options. There is a pan and gain and
also controls for reverb and compressor on the console. But so far i have not
managed to make it work. Infact i hope Bryan may be reading this notice and
have some idears. there is only one driver for the V100 and it seems not to be
working perfectly with Sonar 8.5 So any ideers will be grate.
But as a soundcard it works very well and have possible 4 tracks in and out.
Take care!
Dennis
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Fra: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] På
vegne af Len Viljoen
Sendt: 15. april 2010 22:29
Til: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Emne: [ddots-l] cakewalk v studio 700
hi all. have any of you tried the v studio 700 or v studio 100 from cakewalk?
do you know if they are accessible?
kind regards
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