[ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question

  • From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:10:19 -0700

Hello Maree,

"...but perhaps they aren't reported in the score info 
dialog unless it's a total page."

Maybe you're using a different dialog than I? I get at my 
information by using the file menu and then info (Alt-f-i). 
Then  I Shift-Tab to get to the page tabs and right arrow to 
get to the second page. Then I need to turn on the JAWS 
cursor to read that dialog and get the number of bars, 
systems, and pages.

This always reports the total number of pages, even if there 
is only one bar on the last page. In fact I use this as a 
way to get my lead sheets down to a single page; keep on 
messing with the staff size  and other stuff until my page 
count drops from 2 to 1.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maree Steinway" <maree.steinway@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:33 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question


Hi Dave and all,

Yeah, thaat's why I found it quite mysterious because there 
weren't hidden
or empty bars in my score, but perhaps they aren't reported 
in the score
info dialog unless it's a total page.

Thanks for the cute tip on the hidden zero bar.
Cheers,
Maree

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question


> Hello Maree,
>
> Kevin is right. No way to find out where the pages break.
> You did right in using the file info dialog to get at the
> number of pages.
>
> Your question about the missing 20 bars -- Perhaps some of
> these bars were hidden so not printed? Or perhaps they 
> were
> all empty bars at the end of the score? I've never had a
> problem with not getting all the bars printed that are
> reported in the file info dialog.
>
> By the way you can use the Layout/Format/Make into page to
> restrict a set of systems on a single page. That gives us
> some control over how much gets crammed on to any given
> page, but unfortunately not much feedback as to whether
> things start crashing into each other.
>
> I've heard that future Sib version (4 or perhaps 5) will
> have a better algorithm for automatically adjusting the 
> page
> for best overall appearance. That should help a lot, as I
> still have trouble getting the first system to not crowd 
> out
> my titles. I have to insert a hidden "0" bar in the
> beginning of the music and insert a system break after it,
> just to be sure I have enough white space between the 
> chord
> symbols and the title/subtitle/composer stuff.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Maree Steinway" <maree.steinway@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:27 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question
>
>
> MessageThanks, Kevin,
>
> I also tried using the Score Info dialog and it said that
> there was two pages on my score, it printed out two but
> there must have been 3 pages because according to the
> sighties, there should have been another 20 bars or so 
> that
> should have made a third page.  In other words my score 
> went
> up to bar 156 but somehow in the system it only recognized
> up to bar 135.  Hope that's clear enough.
> Thanks,
> M.
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Kevin L. Gibbs
>  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:24 PM
>  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question
>
>
>  I don't believe there is a blind friendly wayt o grab 
> that
> information.
>  K.
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maree
> Steinway
>    Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:02 AM
>    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Subject: [ddots-l] Sibelius 3 Question
>
>
>    Hi there,
>
>    When I create scores in Sibelius 3, I would like to be
> able to find out where the pages change so that I can
> estimate how things will be laid out for printing.
>
>    I have tried Shift+Control+G, typing in, say, 2, then
> going to the okay button but it doesn't take me there. 
> Any
> suggestions please?
>    Maree
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