[ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question

  • From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 05:20:50 -0700

Hello Maree,

Yes, your Jazz leadsheet template sounds nice. I use a lead sheet format
quite a bit. Could you send to my personal E-Mail at dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx

Very much appreciate your offer.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maree Steinway" <maree.steinway@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: April 14, 2006 1:24 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question


Thanks Dave,

I love your Sibelius tips and your latest has certainly helped me access the
Score Info Dialog much better.

By the way I had a sighted colleague sit down with me and help me with
layout and house style issues so that now I have a pretty reliable format
for jazz fonts if this is useful to any one, I can pass on the information.
I always make it so that my first page will be 4 bars per system and 8
system per page.  This is certainly reliable for lead sheets but you have to
do some arithmetic if it's a longer arrangement with multi rests.
Thanks again, and a peaceful Easter to you.
Maree

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:10 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question


> Hello Maree,
>
> "...but perhaps they aren't reported in the score info
> dialog unless it's a total page."
>
> Maybe you're using a different dialog than I? I get at my
> information by using the file menu and then info (Alt-f-i).
> Then  I Shift-Tab to get to the page tabs and right arrow to
> get to the second page. Then I need to turn on the JAWS
> cursor to read that dialog and get the number of bars,
> systems, and pages.
>
> This always reports the total number of pages, even if there
> is only one bar on the last page. In fact I use this as a
> way to get my lead sheets down to a single page; keep on
> messing with the staff size  and other stuff until my page
> count drops from 2 to 1.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Maree Steinway" <maree.steinway@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:33 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question
>
>
> Hi Dave and all,
>
> Yeah, thaat's why I found it quite mysterious because there
> weren't hidden
> or empty bars in my score, but perhaps they aren't reported
> in the score
> info dialog unless it's a total page.
>
> Thanks for the cute tip on the hidden zero bar.
> Cheers,
> Maree
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:20 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question
>
>
>> Hello Maree,
>>
>> Kevin is right. No way to find out where the pages break.
>> You did right in using the file info dialog to get at the
>> number of pages.
>>
>> Your question about the missing 20 bars -- Perhaps some of
>> these bars were hidden so not printed? Or perhaps they
>> were
>> all empty bars at the end of the score? I've never had a
>> problem with not getting all the bars printed that are
>> reported in the file info dialog.
>>
>> By the way you can use the Layout/Format/Make into page to
>> restrict a set of systems on a single page. That gives us
>> some control over how much gets crammed on to any given
>> page, but unfortunately not much feedback as to whether
>> things start crashing into each other.
>>
>> I've heard that future Sib version (4 or perhaps 5) will
>> have a better algorithm for automatically adjusting the
>> page
>> for best overall appearance. That should help a lot, as I
>> still have trouble getting the first system to not crowd
>> out
>> my titles. I have to insert a hidden "0" bar in the
>> beginning of the music and insert a system break after it,
>> just to be sure I have enough white space between the
>> chord
>> symbols and the title/subtitle/composer stuff.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Maree Steinway" <maree.steinway@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:27 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question
>>
>>
>> MessageThanks, Kevin,
>>
>> I also tried using the Score Info dialog and it said that
>> there was two pages on my score, it printed out two but
>> there must have been 3 pages because according to the
>> sighties, there should have been another 20 bars or so
>> that
>> should have made a third page.  In other words my score
>> went
>> up to bar 156 but somehow in the system it only recognized
>> up to bar 135.  Hope that's clear enough.
>> Thanks,
>> M.
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Kevin L. Gibbs
>>  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:24 PM
>>  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sibelius 3 Question
>>
>>
>>  I don't believe there is a blind friendly wayt o grab
>> that
>> information.
>>  K.
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maree
>> Steinway
>>    Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:02 AM
>>    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Subject: [ddots-l] Sibelius 3 Question
>>
>>
>>    Hi there,
>>
>>    When I create scores in Sibelius 3, I would like to be
>> able to find out where the pages change so that I can
>> estimate how things will be laid out for printing.
>>
>>    I have tried Shift+Control+G, typing in, say, 2, then
>> going to the okay button but it doesn't take me there.
>> Any
>> suggestions please?
>>    Maree
>>
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