[ddots-l] Re: Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64

From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:15:20 +0100
Paul wrote: Hmm, makes me wonder if we need big studios anymore. I think
Staffs Uni have just had a new SSL desk to use with Pro Tools. I think the
desk alone cost 70 grand. If the track had had been recorded there would it
have been any better? Well, maybe a little possibly. Would you want to pay
70 grand though LOL.
 
Phil replied: the other issue here is that a lot of record companies are
only mastering for MP3 so by the time you Dum down you're sound for that
excellent quality then, you wouldn't hear it anyway.  Hmm, reminds me of an
article that I read in Sound On sound.  Apparently, the Sizzer Sisters had
tracked the album in Logic with some MOTU 2408's.  They then took the MOTU's
to a studio  where they have Pro Tools and an SSL concel and recorded that
at 24 96 so that they could add a bit of that analogue sound to  the mix.
Sort of see why they would do that however, ultimately the album was going
on to CD so, it was all going to be dithered down anyway.
 
Paul wrote: The drums sound very close to the real thing. Well they do to me
anyway. Arguablely, if they continue to get any better sounding with the
right programming of course will we see loads of drummers breaking their
sticks over their knees and joining the foreign legion.
 
Phil replied: I know of drummers who are not bothering to mic up kits
anymore because it's too much hassle.  They are purchasing Superior Drummer
2 and programming it instead.
 
Paul wrote: I'm not saying there is no place for big studios at all but at
what cost when you consider what can be achieved in the right hands with a
DAW program and a PC in a corner of a room in a house. I haven't even got a
mixing desk anymore.

Phil replied: on the other hand, there's still a place for getting people to
mix and master you're material that is, if you don't have the experience.
As for me, I only have a mixing concel for live work. 
 
 

Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK +44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ 

 


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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Paul Leishman
Sent: 15 July 2010 20:33
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in
SonarX64



Hmm, makes me wonder if we need big studios anymore. I think Staffs Uni have
just had a new SSL desk to use with Pro Tools. I think the desk alone cost
70 grand. If the track had had been recordedt there would it have been any
better? Well, maybe a little possibly. Would you want to pay 70 grand though
LOL. The drums sound very close to the real thing. Well they do to me
anyway. Arguablely, if they continue to get any better sounding with the
right programming of course will we see loads of drummers breaking their
sticks over their knees and joining the foreign legion. I'm not saying there
is no place for big studios at all but at what cost when you consider what
can be achieved in the right hands with a DAW program and a PC in a corner
of a room in a house. I haven't even got a mixing desk anymore. 



--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



From: Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in
SonarX64
To: "Dancing Dots E-mail List" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "MIDIMag"
<midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Free Sonar Scripts" <jsonar@xxxxxxxxxx>,
realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 12:20


Hi all!

If you go to:

http://www.philmuir.com/

And locate the flash player (you can quickly do that with Jaws by pressing
the letter F twice quickly to locate the play button) then, you can listen
to a track called "Overtaken By Love."  It's the first song in the playlist.
The song was written and sung by a friend of mine, Gordon clowrey.  I
played/arranged  all of  the instruments and did all of the drum
programming, mixing mastering etc.  The BV's were sung by myself and my
wife, Sarah.  Sarah came up with some of the really cool vocal arrangements
for this particular tune and as usual, gave an honest critic of the mix.
That's the cool thing about Sarah, she has great ears and really does know
what's required and what should be left out.  This was all tracked in Sonar.
All of the BV's, mixing and mastering was done in Windows 7 Professional in
SonarX64 with Superior Drummer 2.2.1 64bit, on a couple of PC's, both of
which are core 2 duo.  The fastest one is only 2.13GHZ and this one which is
my laptop is 1.6GHZ.  Just shows you what can be achieved on two fairly
lolly systems, at least by today's standards.  BTW, the snare that I used is
the NirZ custom however, I used the centre hits, rather than the side ones
as the side hits, would have been a bit too ringy for the tune.  Enjoy!



Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
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UK +44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
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References:
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- [ddots-l] Re: Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64
  - From: Paul Leishman
[ddots-l] Re: Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64

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