Still trying to find out How to set the length of a pattern. I thought it was record mode, right arrow 3 times, and use decrease and increase to set the length. That isn't working for me. I tried down arrowing once and then right arrowing 3 times, with no better result. Can anyone help me with this? If it's to complicated to write down, I'd be happy to call you, and even pay for a little tech support. I'd just like to know how to do this basic thing. My email is greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx