[ddots-l] Re: Thoughts on panning?

  • From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:26:48 +0100

Hi Stephanie!!

Sorry I didn't get back to you on this sooner.  Anyway, here are my thoughts on 
this.

If I only had a couple of tracks in the entire mix then, I probably wouldn't 
pan them as far left and right.  On the other hand, quite often when mixing I 
will have to fit the following into a mix:

drums, bass guitar, electric guitar left, electric guitar right, lead guitar, 
Hammond, acoustic guitar left, acoustic guitar right, 3 part harmony backing 
vocals and the lead vocal.

In that instance, it may be necessary to pan things quite wide in order to fit 
everything into the space.  The most extreme panning that I would ever do on 
guitars though is 99% left and right.  So, for example, I may pan the left an 
right acoustic guitars 99% left and right, the electric guitars 90% left and 
right and maybe, half pan the keyboards.  In other words, when recording 
keyboards, I don't record them on a stereo track.  I always record them on two 
mono tracks.  I may then, mix the left channel of the Hammond hard left and the 
right hand channel of the Hammond 50% right.  I would probably mix the piano in 
the same way to balance up the other side of the mix.  In other words, the left 
channel of the piano, 50% left and the right hand channel 100% right.  I don't 
leave the keyboards panned hard left and right as I feel that they would be 
taking up too much of the stereo spread in the mix.  Panning them in the way 
that I have described, still gives the keyboards some of the stereo spread in 
the mix, without taking over.   Naturally, if the mix doesn't have as much to 
go in then, you can afford to pan them right across.

I always leave instruments like bass guitar in the middle and the lead vocal in 
the middle.  I use Drumkit From Hell for drums.  The Drumkit From Hell samples 
are really good and I always love those tracks in stereo as the panning on the 
drums is nicely done.  I would also separate out the 3 part vocal harmonies 
too.  I always have the lowest harmony more to the left and pan them across 
that way.  So, the harmonies would go from low on the left to the hiest one, 
more to the right.  I would fit them into the mix wherever I feel they happen 
to sit right.

Finally but probably most importantly, I would also EQ the various instruments 
and vocals.  EQ can help to separate out frequencies and help to spread things 
out nicely in the mix.  Sometimes I have found that EQing instruments and 
vocals  is what the mix needs, rather than lots of panning.  It can also help 
various instruments and vocals cut through nicely.  I would also add 
compression to vocals and other instruments such as the kick, snare drum and 
bass guitar.  I wouldn't need to add compression to the electric guitars as I 
record them with compression on.

Well, those are my thoughts.  Go for it!!

Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music and audio production
URL: www.philmuir.com/


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephanie Pieck 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:40 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Thoughts on panning?


  While I think the effects of panning are really cool, I'm curious to know 
what other people think of this question.  If you are creating music that might 
be listened to using headphones, what is the most extreme panning you would 
use?  For instance, if you have two electric guitar tracks or drum tracks, and 
you want to highlight the interplay between them by placing them on opposite 
sides of the mix, how far to the left and right is too far?

  Thanks for any ideas.

  Stephanie

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