we don't have access to cuebase though, right? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Smart To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: latency with sfz Unfortunately, there will always be a problem with sync between softsynths and hardware synths. The latency is primarily caused by your audio interface's input latency; the delay between when the note is played on the external synth, and the point when the sampled sound reaches an audio track in Sonar. Under great conditions, this might only be 2-3MS. For many people, though, they might run with 4-8MS of input latency. That means that, when they listen to the playback of their project, the audio that was recorded will seem to trail the softsynths' audio by about 5MS. I can notice 5MS. The only easy solution that I know of is to manually nudge the audio to compensate for the lag, but that is annoying to do each time you track in the sound from the hardware synth. This is yet another reason why I suggest that most people try to get away from using hardware synths if possible. You can make them work, but you lose the nice benefits of working in a softsynth world: instant recall of state, no sync issues, fast mix-down. Cakewalk needs an External Synth plug in like the External Insert plug in. Right now, I use External Insert plug ins on my mLAN return tracks from the Motif, since it allows the return tracks to act a little like softsynths. I still have sync problems, though. Of course, this isn't a problem in Cubase, with VST3 support. The mLAN VST3 plugs automatically compensate for sync. Cakewalk says that they won't support VST3....oh well. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:46 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: latency with sfz OK, bounce the external hardware synth to audio and then freeze the soft synth then compare the playback timing. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Mobile: 07989 486976 Web: http://www.raisedbar.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atherstone-United-Kingdom/Raised-Bar-Ltd/1 2023 4896800 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: 27 August 2009 17:19 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: latency with sfz If you're refering to the external synth track as one of the tracks when you say "both tracks," the external synth track is still a midi track. i haven't converted that to audio yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Burgess <mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: latency with sfz Does the lag persist if you freeze both tracks? Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Mobile: 07989 486976 Web: http://www.raisedbar.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atherstone-United-Kingdom/Raised-Bar-Ltd/1 2023 4896800 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: 27 August 2009 16:41 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] latency with sfz Hello, I notice when I record a kick from an external synth in sonar, then record one from the sfz vst, they are not hitting exactly at the same time, even after I quantize them. There seems to be a very slight delay from the sfz hit. I looked at the latency in sonar and it shows it at 5.8 seconds, and the value is at 2. That seems to me pretty low and is most likely not the problem. Yes, no? Other thoughts? Thanks. 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