Well here's the thing, the fantom shows up in the midi devices menu and i have checked it in both input and output. Also, I just tried what you suggested with no changes. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Brock To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:14 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: midi assignment Omar, This may sound dumb but... Try disconnecting the fantom from the computer or interface, open sonar, and reconnect it. I have had this problem, and for some reason, its hit or miss on weather the fantom shows in sonar. If I connect after starting sonar though, things seem to show up fine. After connecting, sonar will give you a message asking if you want to allow the fantom to be listed in the input and output lists. Just tab to okay, and its good to go. If this isn't the problem, then I'll have to do some thinking, but connecting after you open sonar is worth a try. Shawn ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:59 AM Subject: [ddots-l] midi assignment ello, I just set up my fantom x with sonar 8.5, and i imported the instrument definition files and went to assign the midi outputs to the fantom, but it doesn't seem to be allowing me to do that. The outputs still show that they're assigned to the behringer midi controler which i was using before i set up the fantom. i've checked the fantom in the midi devices, and the behringer midi controler isn't even hooked up anymore. Thanks for any help. OMAR BINNO WEBSITE: www.omarbinno.com AIM: LOD1116 SKYPE: obinno1