Hi, Im wit Steve, The AX-Synth is an overpriced, poor sounding, kitch looking keytar> i'd love an AX keyboard but they are overpriced and look like a childs toy. I brought a Roland VG-99 modeling guitar processor about 6 months ago. One of the best things I have ever brought over the last 25 years. I own quite a lot of guitars and the VG stands up very well indeed. So why the hell can't they use these sounds in keyboard products. I'll be glad to see the back of so called vertual instruments and have some real modeling plugins so we can finally get some real sounding guitars etc. I have never heard any plugin instrument either for guitars or keyboards that stands up to the VG-99. If I had I would not have brought the hardware and paid the extra cost. The day when some real quality modeling instruments are available for Sonar can't come to quick for me. --- On Fri, 16/7/10, Steve Wicketts <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Steve Wicketts <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: re Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 13:13 Hi DJX, The two you mentioned are the best I've heard, I think the problem I have is I'm a wanna be guitarist. I play a Keytar for part of my live show, it's the Roland AX1 using external expansions as there are no sounds on board the AX1. I thought Roland was going to impress with the new AX Synth, but it's not only over priced at around £899 mark, it's also awful sounding with hardly any guitar patches. Roland and Yamaha really need to up there game, they are simply churning out variations of the same old Keyboard technology from years gone by. Roland have upped their game regarding guitarists and technology, The Roland VG99 processor is brilliant for guitarist, creating all types of guitar sounds, surely Roland could adapted so the virtual technology responded with say a dedicated keytar Controller. Stevie Wonder was over in the UK a Week or so ago, he played at Glastonbury (a big music festival over here). He started the show by playing a Keytar, he played it quite well,, but it didn't have the guitar sound that someone of his legendry status deserves. Maybe the guitar has too many sound variations to be created convincingly by a keytar or the likes. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: re Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64 Hey Steve, have you played musicLab's realGuitar, RealLPC or RealStrat? That's probably the most convincing guitar engine i've heard, specially when ran through some good guitar fx pedals or plugs. If you've heard/used them, what do you think of them? D!J!X! From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:46 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: re Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64 Hi Manny, I don't think Phil will mind if I answer your question. technology is getting close to capturing the sound of real drums and the way they behave. there are also very good bass guitar sounds on some of the expensive softsynths, it's down to your understanding of drumming and bass playing to whether you can make the drums and bass guitars sound believable. We're miles away from capturing the versatility of a real guitar. I know this because I can't play guitar and keep looking for convincing ones. Phil is one of those musicians who plays many instruments at professional standard, I'm sure the drums would be real if he had the right acoustic sounding room to set them up in. The guitars are real and the bass guitar is also real, however, he has a digital wife that he simply plugs in and she sings in perfect pitch with auto quantising. I just can't help myself, I start off seriously enough? well, off to get my brain defragged. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Manny To: dots Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:42 AM Subject: [ddots-l] re Song, "Overtaken By Love", All Mixed And Mastered in SonarX64 hello. listened to you're songs., I just had one question, if I could. the guitar, and bass parts of the song, where those done with live guitars and bass ar are thos synthysisers? great songs ! manny __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5282 (20100715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5283 (20100716) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com