John, Usually when I see that message of superior etc. it is referencing the FX versions of the same Cakewalk effects. Look further down in your list of audio effects until you get down to the FX versions in the Cakewalk submenu. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schucker" <gwynn@xxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: [ddots-l] shifting pitch. Here's another question. In Phil's FAQ he mentions putting a pitch shifter on a bus and sending the signal to it. Which pitch shifter are we using for this? Every time I pick the cakewalk pitch shifter, caketalking tells me it's not accessible but there are superior and comparable effects available. OK, what are they? I have no idea whatsoever. PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq