[ddots-l] Re: superior drummer 2.2.3
- From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:33:29 -0000
Hi Phil,
18 inch subs when you can't see are a hand braking disaster waiting to happen.
They are tricky enough to get through certain doors when you can see, your
hands can get trapped and the wait crushes them, believe me I did it with an 18
inch Celestion
sub Speaker.
It was back at the Shop the very next day, that's when I purchased the Mackie
15 inch (very punchy but not very warm sounding)
I purchased the DB 15 inch sub because it sounded warm and couldn't quite
afford the RCF 15 inch sub at the time.
The only time 18 will come into there own with the venues you are currently
playing is if the DJ or support band have them.
The chances are if they do have 18 inch subs they will be Peavey or something
of that class, a 15 RCF will blow away a Peavey 18 inch sub.
The majority of your audience won't know the difference between a 15 or 18,
shame to risk those talented hands.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: superior drummer 2.2.3
Hay Steve. Thanks for the advice. However, think I already checked out the
DB 15's and wasn't that impressed. The RCF 15 sounded nice however, it didn't
quite get the very bottom end. The RCF was quite a bit more cash but, having
heard one, I can see why. Also, asked Tom about the PROL stuff but, he steered
me away from that, and said that the RCF stuff is better. I believe him as
when it comes to any kind of speaker/monitor, Tom really knows his stuff. For
example, was bout to purchase the RCF 15 but, tom stopped me and said, "before
you do, have a listen to this." He plugged in a MACKIE 18 and boy, what a
difference. It really handled the very bottom, a lot better. The bass dropped
off on the bottom D of the backing track that I was playing on the 15 where as
on the 18, it sustained beautifully. He didn't have an RCF 18 around in the
shop at the time so, couldn't check that out. Love that about the guys down
at Absolute Music. They really want to make sure that you have checked out all
of the options before purchase. Also, it was just after 5.30 in the evening so
technically, the shop should have been closed. That's traffic for ya. so, he
couldn't get hold of the 18. He's getting one sent over from the warehouse so,
will be able to check that out. Mind you, any 15 is like that. If you want
that groul or, chest thump then, you really do need to purchase an 18 inch sub.
Also, the RCF 15 and 18's have a digital amp so, they are quite a bit lighter.
the 15 is 34 kilos and the 18 is 40 kilos. Am thinking that I will probably
only need one 18 inch sub for most of the stuff that we are doing currently.
Specifications are below, starting with the 15:
RCF ART 905-AS
1000 Watt Digipro digital amplifier
131 dB max spl
15" woofer, high power 3" copper coil
Xover 80-120 Hz switch, phase switch
Mono / Stereo combo xlr / jack input
PFC power factor correction
Acoustical Specifications
Frequency Response -3 dB:
40 Hz ÷ 120 kHz
Max SPL: 131 dB
Woofer: 15", 3" v.c.
Input/Output Section
Input signal: bal / unbal
Input connectors: Stereo combo xlr-jak
Output connectors: Stereo xlr
Input sensitivity: -2 dBu / +4 dBu
Processor Section
Crossover frequencies: 80 - 120 Hz
Protections: Thermal, rms Limiter:
Limiter Controls: Volume, phase, xover
Amplifier Specifications
Total power: 1000 W
Low frequencies: 1000 W
Cooling: Convection / forced Connections: VDE connector in / out
Cabinet
Cabinet Material: Balitc birch Handles: 2 on side Pole Mount/Cap: Yes Colour:
Black
Physical Specifications
Height: 600 / 23.62 mm/inch Width: 445 / 17.51 mm/inch Depth: 600 / 23.62
mm/inch Net Weight: 34 / 74.95 kg/lbs
RCF SUB 718-AS 18 inch Bandpass Active Subwoofer
700 Watt digital amplification
132 dB max spl
18" High power woofer, 4" voice coil
Xover selector, phase switch and high pass outputs
Electronic equalization, soft limiter and protection
Stereo Xlr/Jack combo input,
Stereo Xlr signal output
Acoustical Specifications
Frequency Response -3 dB: 40 Hz ÷ Xover point kHz
Max SPL: 132 dB
Woofer: 18", 4" voice coil
Input/Output Section
Input connectors: Combo stereo Jack-XLR
male Output connectors: Combo stereo XLR female
Processor Section
Crossover frequencies: 80 - 120 Hz
Protections: Limiter Limiter: Fast limiter, rms limiter
Controls: Volume, phase, crossover switches
Amplifier Specifications
Total power: 1000 W
Cabinet
Cabinet Material: Baltic Birch Handles: 2 on sides Pole Mount/Cap: yes
Colour: Black
Physical Specifications
Height: 650/25.5 mm/inch Width: 504/19.84 mm/inch Depth: 650/25.5 mm/inch Net
Weight: 40.4/89.06 kg/lbs
Phil continues, you will note from the specks that the 18 is 132 dB max spl
so, it should sound slightly louder. Will be interesting to see if it sounds
as good as the MACKIE equivalent which is 10 kilos heavier but, 133 dB max spl
Regards, Phil Muir
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