George Thanks for your response (Basic editing of the EMB ELT file in DBT 10 5). You must be shaking in your boots about releasing this info ... imagine the "my embosser won't work" queries that may ensue ... you're a brave man indeed Mr Bell <smile ... & applause> I think it's a less than eloquent solution though, and I still, however, wonder why the user definable fields are there in the Global embosser box if they are unable to be used by the user. Shouldn't they be greyed out or ... ERRR ... not there? It would be so much easier to change parameters here than risking all and doing it in EMB.ELT especially when the fields are already in the box!!. I therefore request that you put this conundrum second on the wish list of things to be fixed with DBT (first on the list STILL being the elusive Ctrl Z --- yep, that one is not going away either ;-). BTW I can still forsee probs after re-writing EMB.ELT. I haven't had time to try it yet, and must admit the prospect of having no embossers at all is somewhat scary, so I may well be talking through my hat here but; for e.g. if I have 3 of the same make of embosser set up differently (we do) i.e. embossers 1,2 & 3 are all Everest's but 2 is set up for A-4, you change EMB.ELT for Everest (or whatever) and you still get the wrong parameters when you select Everest 2 in the Doc. Embosser box, 'cos you still can't re-set it for A-4 in Global (it reverts to the EMB.ELT settings for normal paper Everest). Like I say, I may be wrong here. The other annoying thing that should be solved by the Global parameters working "properly" is it would stop the constant need of DBT to try to re-format the file. Thanks again, Alan -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kathy Riessen Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 10:40 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Basic editing of the EMB.ELT file in DBT 10.5 Thanks George for this information. I looked at this option. However: Our default page dimension that we braille is 40 cells wide and 25 lines long. If I edit my emb.alt file to match these dimensions I am then unable to occasionally crib into the extra available cells and lines for the occasional special project, which we do from time to time. The best work around at this stage until Duxbury improves the setting of global parameters I feel is the template solution. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:06 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Basic editing of the EMB.ELT file in DBT 10.5 Following on from the recent thread about embosser defaults, I am hoping the following may help a few of you change your embosser's basic defaults. Note that I am only describing cell and line defaults here. The first and absolute golden rule is to make a copy of a file called emb.elt. You will usually find this in the Duxbury folder. If you mess this file up for any reason, you will need to replace it with the copy. The second and also golden rule is to NOT under any circumstances use DBT itself to edit the file. Use a plain text editor such as Notepad, or even DOS's editor. The third rule is to remember that I can (and often do) make mistakes! If you are not 100% certain about any of the above, STOP AND ASK for more details. When you open the emb.elt file in Notepad, and get past the general information at the top of the file, you will see that the file is divided up into multiple sections which basically begin with the embosser make and model contained inside double quote marks. You first need to locate the section relating to your own embosser. This is where the Search option may be useful, for example to look for say, "Enab to find the beginning of the section relating to Enabling Technologies embossers. However in this example, I will use the "Generic Interpoint" section. The following is how it may appear in the file. } "Generic Interpoint" # *** Embosser definition unchanged since 05/20/2004 # no escape sequences used { MaximumCells = 42 MaximumLines = 26 BreakLimits CanDoInterpoint Form "10_n" = 85 x 100 ; SinglePage ; 34 x 22 ; 32 x 22 Form "11_n" = 85 x 110 ; SinglePage ; 34 x 25 ; 32 x 25 Form "11_w" = 115 x 110 ; SinglePage ; 42 x 26 ; 40 x 25 Form "12_n" = 85 x 120 ; SinglePage ; 34 x 28 ; 32 x 28 Form "12_w" = 115 x 120 ; SinglePage ; 40 x 28 ; 40 x 28 SortToTop } Arrow down to the lines which begin with the word Form. Note that the word Form is followed by a number, an underscore, and a letter, inside double quotes. The number represents the form length (From top to bottom) in inches. The letter represents the width of form, generally assumed to be around 9 inches where the letter n appears, and between 11 & 12 inches where a letter w appears. There are not set in stone, and intended as a general guide. The numbers after the equals sign refer to the actual page width and dept, measure in tenths of an inch. Therefore for example 115 x 110 is actually 11.5 inches wide, by 11 inches deep. The word "SinglePage" (Note the capital letter P) follows after a semi-colon. After that, are two sets of numbers, separated by and following another semi-colon. ; 42 x 26 ; 40 x 25 The first represents the maximum capability of the embosser for the given size of paper - 42 cells x 26 lines. The second represents the "suggested" default, 40 cells by 25 lines. You may now change the first set of numbers. In the example here (shown below), I have changed them to 38 cells by 25 lines. I have gone a stage further in my example below, and have removed the "10_ and "12_ lines. Take care when you do this to ensure that the remaining "Form" line remains indented by two characters. The net result is that when I use the "Generic Interpoint" embosser, I would now only have one choice of form size, and that would be defaulted at 38 cells by 25 lines. However, I can still over-ride these settings in Document Embosser Setup if I wish. The modified section described above follows. } "Generic Interpoint" # *** Embosser definition unchanged since 05/20/2004 # no escape sequences used { MaximumCells = 42 MaximumLines = 26 BreakLimits CanDoInterpoint Form "11_w" = 115 x 110 ; SinglePage ; 38 x 25 ; 40 x 25 SortToTop } There's a lot more we can do in emb.elt, but I hopefully for now you will at least be able to control the default paper size and layout. George W F Bell, Managing Director Techno-Vision Systems Ltd 76 Bunting Road Ind. Est. 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