Hi all, This is a long posting, so you may either want to save and read later, delete, or just fill up your coffee cup or beer glass before you read on. To understand why formatting may vary between braille embossers, you need to try and begin to understand something of the history of the technology. It's actually quite simple. Braille embosser manufacturers have to sell their embossers into world-wide markets. Without doing this, embossers would still cost you an absolute fortune. I remember almost 20 years ago, when a 10 cell per second embosser in the UK was selling at around $10,000. Now you can buy one for less than a quarter of that, which runs at 5 times the speed. In spite of what we all believe, well over half the embossers sold today, and even 20 years ago, go into countries where there is no Grade 2 braille, and they print directly out of programs like Notebook, WordPad, and even Word for Windows. For the more technically inclined, they are installed as "Generic/Text only" devices. They are treated to some extent as dumb, with the embosser having the intelligence. 20 years ago, Duxbury was still a very small company, and virtually the only one of its kind, certainly in the Western hemisphere. They specialised in producing software for countries who DID use Grade 2 braille. Also as a VERY small company, and before the PC as we know it appeared, most of their work was for main-frame computers, installed in major braille printing houses. Remember that the IBM PC was only just coming into being then. And so braille embosser manufacturers had to devise ways in which they could accommodate countries where there was only Grade 1 braille. Features like automatic insertion of Numbers signs were built in. They devised word-wrapping, such that words would not be split on a line. The early PC's of that age of course were equally basic, as were text editors, And so a culture developed with the hardware manufacturers to build in all manner of features. So specialist and removed from the normal ink print print market was braille, that apart from things as basic as Parallel and Serial connection were concerned, the similarity between ink printing and braille printing stopped right there. Not only that, but as we all know English braille has many derivatives, English English and American English being just one example where the embosser manufacturers had to provide for. So we had a very few braille embosser manufacturers, each competing against one another, each in a market place the size of a duck pond compared to an ocean of ink printers. (Hey! That's not a bad comparison for almost 4am!) In short, no common standards were developed. Just ask yourself if your ordinary office ink printer now has settings for characters per line, and lines per page? No. You just plug it in, tell Windows what kind of printer it is, (in fact the printer itself now tells Windows what kind of printer it is) and away you go. So the bottom line is that regardless of what software you use to send text to your braille embosser if, for example, you send a file where you have formatted for 40 cells per line, and your embosser is set for 32 cells per line, the embosser prints what it is told - 32 cells per line. However, set your embosser to 40 cells per line in this case, and you are OK. The absence of any common control standard has caused serious problems. When I say "common control", I mean like things called escape codes, which tell the printer what to do. Each manufacturer would have their own way for example, of telling the printer how to only emboss ## number of lines on a page, and # characters on a line. These different codes were, and still are, a nightmare for software developers like Duxbury. Indeed one simple example that I was discussing only last week when I was in Germany, was a feature which one manufacturer calls, "Letter Graphics". It's simple enough. Embossed print readable characters. I wanted to see the feature now added to DBT's new version, available at least with the two major manufacturer's embossers. It's been done for one type of embosser, but not yet for a competitive embosser. Why? Nobody had thought it a worthwhile feature, so no special codes had been written to deal with it!! So I did some head banging - and hopefully at least some models from this manufacturer will be able to have their internal firmware upgraded to take advantage of the feature. But going deeper still, Duxbury faced with this kind of problem, have not stuck their heads in the sand. (well not quite) But they have done their very level best to stay neutral, and be as fair as possible to all embosser manufactures. Sadly, they have let manufacturers simply get on with it. Rather like the tail wagging the proverbial dog. Well I for one am totally sick of all this. We produce braille ourselves, and so I feel we know a modest bit about things. We don't want to have to re-set our embossers each time we change size of paper. We want the software (DBT) to tell us for example what size of paper the job was originally done on, and automatically tell the embosser to adjust its settings accordingly. Given we have the right size of paper in place, it should not matter what make and model of embosser we use. In short, no more of this going through embosser set-ups, with complicated key pads, with or without speech to help. And so we are back to basics. And I mean basic basics. The whole approach to dealing with different embossers has to change. You need to know before you emboss, that your file contains something that your embosser cannot handle. Suffice to say that I'm onto everyone's case here. Embosser manufacturers and software developers. Don't expect miracles overnight, or even in months. But we'll get there. George Bell. * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *