[duxuser] Re: Importing WordPerfect tables how can I?

  • From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:42:46 -0500

Hello Lynn,

Thank you. I don't know about a convert-to-text feature in WordPerfect but I
will go look for that.

I could, as you say, edit the document in Dux but I am looking for a quick
way to do this without all that work. It is not that I am lazy, it is that
Braille translation is not my work. It is a tool by which I try to get my
work done more efficiently and effectively. My colleagues simply print off
copies of minutes, agenda and such while I must take time to import, edit,
format then emboss if I am to take the same materials to meetings and such.
This must come out of the time I am supposed to be doing my real job. I do
have a part-time sighted assistant who is increasingly capable but she too
has other duties and being part-time isn't usually available if meetings
come up at short notice. Further, we share a single Windows computer so I
try to schedule around that. Usually that means I am at the very meeting I
require documentation for when she would be available to help prepare that
documentation.

The braille doesn't have to be perfect but it does have to be better than I
am often getting.

Used to be with a typewriter people were happy using tabs. That could work.
I suppose too that with some programming Duxbury could be a little more
intelligent about importing tables and doubtless if I buy enough versions
eventually it will happen. For example, I can think of no situation where
the end of a row should not trigger a new line. Except for the last item in
a column I can think of no situation where at least one single space should
not follow each and every column entry. In a print column this is achieved
by the vertical line or the space it would have filled if it were visible
and printed. Maybe there are situations where the present formatting is
acceptable, I can't think of any though.

I am sure there is an export to text I am sure I have used it before and
there are in fact several options and I will almost guarantee it will handle
tables correctly, I never thought of it. I wonder if it is in the Save As,
bet it is.

Again thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
dleavens@xxxxxxx
     Home of the Polar Bear Express!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Carroll" <lynnc@xxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:26 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Importing WordPerfect tables how can I?


Dale,
I think the easiest way to deal with something like this is to edit the
.dxp file after importing.  In this case, you could simply delete the X
before the name, add it in after the name (with a space), and add a line
break codes [l] before the next name.  A transcriber's note could be
added explaining that an X after the name means ...

I don't know if there's a way to eliminate the line break step by doing
something in WP. I know that in Word, a table can be converted to
"text", with no formatting except that tabs are added between columns
and line breaks at the end of rows.  Maybe someone knows if there is a
similar function in WP.

This probably isn't much help, but since no one else seemed to have a
ready answer, I thought I'd put in 2 cents.
Lynn

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Leavens [mailto:dleavens@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:03 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Importing WordPerfect tables how can I?


Hi,

I get various minutes and agenda with a cover page showing who was
expected and who was present. This is done in a WordPerfect 8 or 9
table. DBT doesn't do a very nice job of formatting this for me.

The table has a cell which is checked if the person was present, then
the name of the person and then a description of who that person is.

DBT places an X in the first cell if the person is present but does not
put a space so it bangs into the first character of the person's name.
The rows are not separated by linefeeds so the next X is an extension of
the line unless coincidently it lands at the end of the braille line. If
the person was not present no space is inserted and of course the
columns do not line up. This I do not care about but reading such a list
isn't very meaningful, is slow and is very difficult to locate a
specific name if that is important.

Is there an easy way to help DBT figure out what to do with such a list
in table format to help improve readability? Remember this is a table
inserted into a WordPerfect document.

Thanks for any advice or assistance.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
dleavens@xxxxxxx
     Home of the Polar Bear Express!


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