[duxuser] Re: Styles

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  • Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:50:07 -0600

Susie,
I am going to paste in a copy of something I wrote a while back after
struggling with the question of placement of styles after highlighting
text.  It may help you understand why Ann's solution worked: it assures
that the highlighting does not include the final line ending or
carriagle return.  A word of warning, first, about a problem I ran into
when modifying a style (list and outline).  List style should be a
linear, not nestable style.  When you modify it, if you rename yours, be
sure to include the period at the end of the name, so that the program
will treat your version correcly.

I think I've got it figured out.  
If you're applying a nestable style like "compinline" or "box," the
begin- and end-style codes go immediately before and after the text that
you've highlighted (selected).

With linear styles like "para.", "list.", "h1.", etc. (any with a period
at the end), the beginning code will be placed right after the carriage
return, end line command, or ending code of another linear style that
precedes the highlighted text.  The ending code will go just before the
next [<], [l], or opening linear style code AFTER what's highlighted. In
fact, you don't even have to highlight anything.  The cursor can just be
anywhere in the "paragraph" you want, and the style you select is
applied to the whole section between carriage returns, etc.

I used to have trouble when trying to apply a heading style to text
after a print page break in a textbook.  I'd put in the [lea] code and
print page number, then a heading, which I wanted in the h1. or h2.
style.  The opening style code would end up before the [lea] command.
Now I know I should put the line end code [l] after the page number, and
it works correctly.  (A carriage return after the page number gives an
unwanted skipped line.)

Hoping this helps,
Lynn
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:18 AM
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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Styles


Hi Susie
I've experienced the very thing you are talking about.  Here's what I
did to solve it.  I put my cursor on the first letter of the text to be
included in the style.  I highlighted the text and then I continued to
hold down my shift key while using the left arrow key to move back to
the last letter that was highlighted, which would, of course,
un-highlight that letter.  I then moved the right arrow, continuing to
hold down the shift key in order to get that last letter highlighted.
Then I applied the style.  This sounds very tedious but once you get the
hang of it, you can do it quickly and avoid the frustration you had
yesterday.  Sometimes the style codes insert themselves in the midst of
other code activity and that is what will cause havoc.

Ann Foxworth, Computer Braille Specialist
Texas Commission for the Blind
4800 N. Lamar BLVD Suite # 130
Austin, TX 78756
PH: (512) 377-0654


-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:09 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Styles


Good morning, everybody.  I am running into a problem that I hope George
or Steve or one of you gurus can help me with.  I am dealing with a
lengthy document in which I am trying to use list style and H1 and H2.
When I try to highlight the text that goes into the H1 heading, for
example, the codes are inserted in the wrong place.  When I try to apply
the list style, which I have modified  a little to suit myself, the
beginning of list code gets put in right, but the [ee~list] shows up at
the end of the first list item, rather than at the end of the list.  I
went through yesterday and manually forced all these style codes, but
when I embossed the thing half of them didn't work.  In the end I used
[ptys], [hds/hde] and [ind5] for my headings and hanging indents, but
that is tedious.  So is manually forcing all those style codes.  Is
there a bug that is causing Duxbury not to put the codes where I have
requested them?  If you  highlight the line you want to appear as H2,
shouldn't the codes flank that line?  Am I missing something elementary
here? (no doubt!)

Thanks for any and all help.  I was feeling awfully smug that I had
discovered and learned how to use styles, and now this disaster!

Susie Stageberg
Project ASSIST with Windows
Iowa Department for the Blind
 

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