[duxuser] Swifter

  • From: "Albert Sanchez" <albertsanchez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:49:03 -0500

Hi George et al,
I am using win 98 system with DBT 10.3 with ms word.
I have tried to download Swifter from the web page shown in the below
message with no success. Short of upgrading to DBT 10.4 where else might I
find this utility?
Albert Sanchez
Amateur Radio Call Sign: W A 7 F X B / 4
Al's Piano Tuning & Repair
(703) 933-9303
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To        : <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Cc: "Ben Blagg" <bblagg@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:36 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list


> Hi Ben,
>
> I'll answer on list for the benefit of others interested.
>
> If you have DBT 10.4, then look for a file called DBT2.dot in the
> c:\duxbury folder.  There should also be a DBTW.DOC file which explains
> how to install and run it.
>
> If you don't have 10.4, then you can get download earlier version from
> http://www.duxburysystems.com/freeware.asp
>
> George Bell
> Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Blagg [mailto:bblagg@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 29 January 2003 11:51
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> >
> >
> > George, write to me off list and tell me more about Swift,
> > where to get it and how to install it.  thanks.
> >
> > Ben
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:31 AM
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> >
> >
> > > Hi Juanita,
> > >
> > > I think the simple answer is, that if it works for you,
> > stay with it.
> > >
> > > As regards Tutorials for Word, there are many good ones in the
> > > bookshops.  My own favourite is "Running Word 2000" by
> > Charles Ruben,
> > > available from Microsoft Press (ISBN 1-57231-943-7)
> > >
> > > Although it's a 900 odd page tombe, costing $39.99, I found it is
> > > worth every hard earned cent.
> > >
> > > George Bell
> > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: 27 January 2003 16:15
> > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > George,
> > > > I have had to teach myself to use Duxbury and Braille over the
> > > > years. I am a sighted aide and would like to know if there is a
> > > > tutorial for Word for Windows
> > > > to Duxbury. Since my new update of Duxbury, which I love, I
> > > > found it is easier
> > > > to just work there and print directly from it. Am I doing
> > all of this
> > > > incorrectly? (Setting up tests and worksheets for
> > teachers). Juanita
> > > >
> > > > Quoting George Bell <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > I should stress that what I am about to say, mainly
> > applies to the
> > > > > large number of sighted DBT users, for whom braille may
> > be just a
> > > > > small part of their organisations daily work.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it were only practical, possible and above all,
> > affordable, I'm
> > > > > sure Duxbury would ideally like to buy in some kind of
> > > > licence for a
> > > > > top end
> > > > > Word Processor.
> > > > >
> > > > > My own attitude, which has developed over many years, is
> > > > that the vast
> > > > > majority of editors in braille programs are just that -
> > > > editors.  They
> > > > > are for final last minute tweaking.
> > > > >
> > > > > As DBT has evolved, especially over the last year or
> > two, I have
> > > > > tended to use Word for Windows as my primary
> > preparation program.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the main reasons for this, is that Word is so
> > > > commonly used in
> > > > > the non-braille world, that it is much easier for me to
> > > > develop a DBT
> > > > > user's existing Word skills, than try to teach them the
> > > > intricacies,
> > > > > foibles and nuances of DBT's editor and codes right from the
> > > > > outset.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given a well formatted Word document, one can be in and out of
> > > > > DBT, and have the embosser rattling away in a relatively short
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our biggest challenge when we run training courses, is to teach
> > > > > the proper use of Word itself.  Styles and Templates being the
> > > > area where
> > > > > most people get stuck.  However, it is highly
> > gratifying to hear
> > > > > students commenting on how much more efficient their daily
> > > > use of Word
> > > > > has become as a result.  Once they begin to understand such
> > > > things in
> > > > > Word, when it is applied to braille, again it is more easily
> > > > > understood.
> > > > >
> > > > > One embosser manufacturer's tag phrase is, "We make it easy
> > > > to produce
> > > > > braille".  That's exactly what I aim to do when we are training
> > > > > people, especially those new to braille.
> > > > >
> > > > > Contrary to popular opinion, braille is not exactly rocket
> > > > > science. So let's try and keep as much mystery out of it as
> > > > > possible, and make braille more easily and readily
> > available for
> > > > > its readers.
> > > > >
> > > > > George Bell
> > > > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: 24 January 2003 21:17
> > > > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday 1/24/03 12:30 George Bell wrote:
> > > > > > >However, where do we draw the line between a braille
> > > > > > >translation package and a word processor?
> > > > > > I know what you're saying, George, but that line was obscured
> > > > > > the minute an editor became part of DBTW.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
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