[duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list

  • From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:36:31 -0000

Hi Ben,

I'll answer on list for the benefit of others interested.

If you have DBT 10.4, then look for a file called DBT2.dot in the
c:\duxbury folder.  There should also be a DBTW.DOC file which explains
how to install and run it.

If you don't have 10.4, then you can get download earlier version from
http://www.duxburysystems.com/freeware.asp

George Bell
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Blagg [mailto:bblagg@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 29 January 2003 11:51
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> 
> 
> George, write to me off list and tell me more about Swift, 
> where to get it and how to install it.  thanks.
> 
> Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:31 AM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> 
> 
> > Hi Juanita,
> >
> > I think the simple answer is, that if it works for you, 
> stay with it.
> >
> > As regards Tutorials for Word, there are many good ones in the 
> > bookshops.  My own favourite is "Running Word 2000" by 
> Charles Ruben, 
> > available from Microsoft Press (ISBN 1-57231-943-7)
> >
> > Although it's a 900 odd page tombe, costing $39.99, I found it is 
> > worth every hard earned cent.
> >
> > George Bell
> > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 27 January 2003 16:15
> > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > >
> > >
> > > George,
> > > I have had to teach myself to use Duxbury and Braille over the 
> > > years. I am a sighted aide and would like to know if there is a 
> > > tutorial for Word for Windows
> > > to Duxbury. Since my new update of Duxbury, which I love, I
> > > found it is easier
> > > to just work there and print directly from it. Am I doing 
> all of this
> > > incorrectly? (Setting up tests and worksheets for 
> teachers). Juanita
> > >
> > > Quoting George Bell <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I should stress that what I am about to say, mainly 
> applies to the 
> > > > large number of sighted DBT users, for whom braille may 
> be just a 
> > > > small part of their organisations daily work.
> > > >
> > > > If it were only practical, possible and above all, 
> affordable, I'm 
> > > > sure Duxbury would ideally like to buy in some kind of
> > > licence for a
> > > > top end
> > > > Word Processor.
> > > >
> > > > My own attitude, which has developed over many years, is
> > > that the vast
> > > > majority of editors in braille programs are just that -
> > > editors.  They
> > > > are for final last minute tweaking.
> > > >
> > > > As DBT has evolved, especially over the last year or 
> two, I have 
> > > > tended to use Word for Windows as my primary 
> preparation program.
> > > >
> > > > One of the main reasons for this, is that Word is so
> > > commonly used in
> > > > the non-braille world, that it is much easier for me to
> > > develop a DBT
> > > > user's existing Word skills, than try to teach them the
> > > intricacies,
> > > > foibles and nuances of DBT's editor and codes right from the 
> > > > outset.
> > > >
> > > > Given a well formatted Word document, one can be in and out of 
> > > > DBT, and have the embosser rattling away in a relatively short 
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Our biggest challenge when we run training courses, is to teach 
> > > > the proper use of Word itself.  Styles and Templates being the
> > > area where
> > > > most people get stuck.  However, it is highly 
> gratifying to hear 
> > > > students commenting on how much more efficient their daily
> > > use of Word
> > > > has become as a result.  Once they begin to understand such
> > > things in
> > > > Word, when it is applied to braille, again it is more easily 
> > > > understood.
> > > >
> > > > One embosser manufacturer's tag phrase is, "We make it easy
> > > to produce
> > > > braille".  That's exactly what I aim to do when we are training 
> > > > people, especially those new to braille.
> > > >
> > > > Contrary to popular opinion, braille is not exactly rocket 
> > > > science. So let's try and keep as much mystery out of it as 
> > > > possible, and make braille more easily and readily 
> available for 
> > > > its readers.
> > > >
> > > > George Bell
> > > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: 24 January 2003 21:17
> > > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 1/24/03 12:30 George Bell wrote:
> > > > > >However, where do we draw the line between a braille 
> > > > > >translation package and a word processor?
> > > > > I know what you're saying, George, but that line was obscured 
> > > > > the minute an editor became part of DBTW.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
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