[duxuser] Re: The Basics

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:56:33 +0100

Hi Robert,

You were not being ignored.  Rather the nature of your
message was not conducive to an off the cuff, quick answer.

To address your last question first, I'm not sure quite what
you mean?

What exactly does the "C" mean?  (Sorry, I'm Scottish, so
not familiar with American recipe terms)

In Grade 2 Braille, "1 C flour", the capital letter C would
be prefixed with an upper case and letter sign, indicating
that it is not a word sign, but a single letter.  Since
there are no word signs in Grade 1, the "C" would stand on
it's own in braille as a letter "C", albeit with an upper
case sign.

As regards indents of list from Word.  If your Word file's
list is produced using the same Style that is used for
general text, then DBT will treat each line as a new
paragraph and follow the braille convention of beginning a
new paragraph in cell 3.  After all, Word doesn't know the
difference between a paragraph with a hard carriage return,
and a list of ingredients separated with a hard carriage
return.

However, if in Word, you hold down the shift key and press
return, you will actually produce a Hard New Line within a
paragraph.  The net result when you import to DBT will be to
start on a new line on cell 1.

Initially I found this a difficult concept to grasp myself,
especially after many years of using DOS based word
processors where hitting return meant a new line, and two
returns meant a new paragraph.  In Word, you can actually
tell it how much space to leave after a hard carriage return
between paragraphs, where Shift plus return, simply means a
new line.

George.



-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Clark
Sent: 03 May 2005 06:08
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] The Basics

Hullo,
    Just started using DBT Win 10.5.  At this point I want
to do some simple tasks while learning the program.  Here is
what I want to do and cant seem to make it happen.

    Over the years I have collected recipes in MS Word.
Nothing fancy, just large print so I can read them.  Now its
time to move to braille.  What I am trying to figure out is
just how to import into DBT and translate the recipes.  Well
I can do that.  In Word the ingredient lists and the cooking
directions are left justified.  When I preview the file in
braille tho, the lists are indented 3 cells.

    I dont need to do lots of recipes at one time, usually
on a need basis so I could do the formatting manually as I
go along.  Whats the ideal procedure?  Import and translate
a Word file then edit the braille version?
Would a template work 100%?  There are variations in many
recipes.  Thanks.

    By the way, I want to use Grade 1.  This would be so
much easier than proofing all my recipes.  Reason?  1 C
flour in Grade 2 would come out as 1 can flour.

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Robert & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)
Newport, Oregon
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rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx

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