[duxuser] Re: computer braille

  • From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:05:21 -0000

Hi Lisette,

I'm afraid Duxbury didn't write the rule book here, more's the pity!

George Bell
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lisette Wesseling [mailto:Lisette.Wesseling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 28 November 2002 20:04
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: computer braille
> 
> 
> Hi George and all
> 
> Thanks for the hhelpful explanations George and others, it's 
> clear as mud.
> NO really, it's fine. I still think the compinline style should have a
> hyphen (dot 5) to indicate end of a line and as somebody who 
> grew up with
> American braille I think the UK computer code is completely 
> daft, but there
> you go. That's for another list.
> Thanks to all.
> 
> Cheers
> Lisette
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <gwfb16@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:11 PM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: computer braille
> 
> 
> Hi Lisette,
> 
> Oh boy!  Something I've recently genned up on.
> 
> I should first explain that "compinline" is a Character Style, whereas
> "compdisplay." is a Paragraph Style.
> 
> The next thing I have to admit about the "compinline" and 
> "compdisplay."
> Styles as far as BRITISH Computer braille in DBT is 
> concerned, is that the
> Codes for "Compdisplay." are wrong.
> 
> [George:  Remember to send amended Styles to Duxbury for UK 
> and advise list
> of how to amend Styles.]
> 
> "compinline" does what it should do, and embraces the text 
> with a Dot 4 ing
> sign.
> 
> However, "compdisplay" should begin the section of text with a row of
> centered ow signs, and end with a row of centered o's.
> 
> Bear in mind that with computer type text, we might be 
> talking about say the
> term, "FPRINT" in a normal sentence like this, which needs to 
> be shown as a
> computer term.
> 
> However, if listing dozens of lines of computer program code, 
> it obviously
> makes sense to "group" such lines of text.
> 
> Now, the letter sign question.
> 
> It is usually extremely important to know the case of letters 
> in computer
> program code, and going back a thousand years, program code 
> was once almost
> all in upper case.
> 
> So, British computer braille dictates that upper case letters are the
> default.  If you start with upper case, there is no dot 6 
> case indicator.
> But change to lower case, and dots 5,6 are used to indicate lower case
> begins.  When reverting to upper case, dot 6 is used.  As long as you
> continue in Upper Case, you'll never see a dot 6 capital sign 
> afterwards.
> 
> Confused?  Call me or Neil.
> 
> George Bell
> Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Hello all
> >
> >Could somebody please explain what the difference is between 
> compinline and
> >comp display? When I tried using the compinline style in the British
> >Braille
> >template I got something which looks like British computer 
> braille but
> >with
> >dot 6 ing sign before and after. Are these indicators now standard?
> >And there was also a letter sign between the indicator and 
> the first letter
> >of the email address. Why? The address was in lower case but 
> would this
> >letter sign be necessary or should the absence of a capital 
> sign be enough?
> >This would be my opinion.
> >And finally: DBT broke up the lines with no      indication 
> of hyphen or
> >suchlike. Would the comp display do this better?
> >Many thanks for any enlightenment.
> >
> >Lisette
> >
> >
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