[duxuser] Re: missing text
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 08:17:45 -0400
Hi Janet,
This is a problem that plagues more programs than I care to
mention, and is in fact a throwback from DOS. It happens
because lines are above a certain limit long, before a
carriage return appears.
That said, I have reported the problem in the past.
However, when I get in to Duxbury this morning, I will make
sure it is raised again, and hopefully fixed before 10.5 is
released.
George Bell
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Janet
Reynolds
Sent: 01 May 2003 00:57
To: 'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Hi George
Apologies for the unfinished message - here is the rest of
it.
One of the problems that we have learned to live with but
which still dogs
new users is the way that DBT sometimes loses the ends of
paragraphs when
you are importing a text only document. On this duxuser list
various folk
often explain how to get around the problem by saving in
other formats or by
changing the DBT import filter from "formatted text" to
"duxbury coded text"
or by cutting and pasting the text. My question is whether
or not this has
been fixed in either 10.4 or 10.5 and if not, whether it is
on the list you
are holding of things that need fixing.
Janet
Janet Reynolds
Royal New Zealand Foundation of the Blind
-----Original Message-----
From: George Bell [mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 1:37 a.m.
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Ben Blagg
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
Hi Ben,
I'll answer on list for the benefit of others interested.
If you have DBT 10.4, then look for a file called DBT2.dot
in the
c:\duxbury folder. There should also be a DBTW.DOC file
which explains
how to install and run it.
If you don't have 10.4, then you can get download earlier
version from
http://www.duxburysystems.com/freeware.asp
George Bell
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Blagg [mailto:bblagg@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 29 January 2003 11:51
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
>
>
> George, write to me off list and tell me more about Swift,
> where to get it and how to install it. thanks.
>
> Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:31 AM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
>
>
> > Hi Juanita,
> >
> > I think the simple answer is, that if it works for you,
> stay with it.
> >
> > As regards Tutorials for Word, there are many good ones
in the
> > bookshops. My own favourite is "Running Word 2000" by
> Charles Ruben,
> > available from Microsoft Press (ISBN 1-57231-943-7)
> >
> > Although it's a 900 odd page tombe, costing $39.99, I
found it is
> > worth every hard earned cent.
> >
> > George Bell
> > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 27 January 2003 16:15
> > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > >
> > >
> > > George,
> > > I have had to teach myself to use Duxbury and Braille
over the
> > > years. I am a sighted aide and would like to know if
there is a
> > > tutorial for Word for Windows
> > > to Duxbury. Since my new update of Duxbury, which I
love, I
> > > found it is easier
> > > to just work there and print directly from it. Am I
doing
> all of this
> > > incorrectly? (Setting up tests and worksheets for
> teachers). Juanita
> > >
> > > Quoting George Bell <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I should stress that what I am about to say, mainly
> applies to the
> > > > large number of sighted DBT users, for whom braille
may
> be just a
> > > > small part of their organisations daily work.
> > > >
> > > > If it were only practical, possible and above all,
> affordable, I'm
> > > > sure Duxbury would ideally like to buy in some kind
of
> > > licence for a
> > > > top end
> > > > Word Processor.
> > > >
> > > > My own attitude, which has developed over many
years, is
> > > that the vast
> > > > majority of editors in braille programs are just
that -
> > > editors. They
> > > > are for final last minute tweaking.
> > > >
> > > > As DBT has evolved, especially over the last year or
> two, I have
> > > > tended to use Word for Windows as my primary
> preparation program.
> > > >
> > > > One of the main reasons for this, is that Word is so
> > > commonly used in
> > > > the non-braille world, that it is much easier for me
to
> > > develop a DBT
> > > > user's existing Word skills, than try to teach them
the
> > > intricacies,
> > > > foibles and nuances of DBT's editor and codes right
from the
> > > > outset.
> > > >
> > > > Given a well formatted Word document, one can be in
and out of
> > > > DBT, and have the embosser rattling away in a
relatively short
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Our biggest challenge when we run training courses,
is to teach
> > > > the proper use of Word itself. Styles and Templates
being the
> > > area where
> > > > most people get stuck. However, it is highly
> gratifying to hear
> > > > students commenting on how much more efficient their
daily
> > > use of Word
> > > > has become as a result. Once they begin to
understand such
> > > things in
> > > > Word, when it is applied to braille, again it is
more easily
> > > > understood.
> > > >
> > > > One embosser manufacturer's tag phrase is, "We make
it easy
> > > to produce
> > > > braille". That's exactly what I aim to do when we
are training
> > > > people, especially those new to braille.
> > > >
> > > > Contrary to popular opinion, braille is not exactly
rocket
> > > > science. So let's try and keep as much mystery out
of it as
> > > > possible, and make braille more easily and readily
> available for
> > > > its readers.
> > > >
> > > > George Bell
> > > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: 24 January 2003 21:17
> > > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish
list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 1/24/03 12:30 George Bell wrote:
> > > > > >However, where do we draw the line between a
braille
> > > > > >translation package and a word processor?
> > > > > I know what you're saying, George, but that line
was obscured
> > > > > the minute an editor became part of DBTW.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
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