[duxuser] Re: missing text

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 19:23:16 -0400

And just to conclude the day Janet, I have just heard that
it is fixed for 10.5.

George.


-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Janet
Reynolds
Sent: 01 May 2003 17:41
To: 'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'

Many thanks George.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: George Bell [mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2003 9:35 a.m.
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: missing text


Hi Janet,

Just a quick note to say that the truncation of long
paragraphs when importing text files is currently being
looked at and all being well, a solution will be in 10.5.


George Bell


-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Janet
Reynolds
Sent: 01 May 2003 00:57
To: 'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'

Hi George
Apologies for the unfinished message - here is the rest of
it.
One of the problems that we have learned to live with but
which still dogs new users is the way that DBT sometimes
loses the ends of paragraphs when you are importing a text
only document. On this duxuser list various folk often
explain how to get around the problem by saving in other
formats or by changing the DBT import filter from "formatted
text" to "duxbury coded text"
or by cutting and pasting the text. My question is whether
or not this has been fixed in either 10.4 or 10.5 and if
not, whether it is on the list you are holding of things
that need fixing.
Janet 

Janet Reynolds
Royal New Zealand Foundation of the Blind

-----Original Message-----
From: George Bell [mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 1:37 a.m.
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Ben Blagg
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list


Hi Ben,

I'll answer on list for the benefit of others interested.

If you have DBT 10.4, then look for a file called DBT2.dot
in the c:\duxbury folder.  There should also be a DBTW.DOC
file which explains how to install and run it.

If you don't have 10.4, then you can get download earlier
version from http://www.duxburysystems.com/freeware.asp

George Bell
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Blagg [mailto:bblagg@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 29 January 2003 11:51
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> 
> 
> George, write to me off list and tell me more about Swift,
where to 
> get it and how to install it.  thanks.
> 
> Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:31 AM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> 
> 
> > Hi Juanita,
> >
> > I think the simple answer is, that if it works for you,
> stay with it.
> >
> > As regards Tutorials for Word, there are many good ones
in the 
> > bookshops.  My own favourite is "Running Word 2000" by
> Charles Ruben,
> > available from Microsoft Press (ISBN 1-57231-943-7)
> >
> > Although it's a 900 odd page tombe, costing $39.99, I
found it is 
> > worth every hard earned cent.
> >
> > George Bell
> > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:Jhawley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 27 January 2003 16:15
> > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish list
> > >
> > >
> > > George,
> > > I have had to teach myself to use Duxbury and Braille
over the 
> > > years. I am a sighted aide and would like to know if
there is a 
> > > tutorial for Word for Windows to Duxbury. Since my new
update of 
> > > Duxbury, which I love, I found it is easier to just
work there and 
> > > print directly from it. Am I doing
> all of this
> > > incorrectly? (Setting up tests and worksheets for
> teachers). Juanita
> > >
> > > Quoting George Bell <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I should stress that what I am about to say, mainly
> applies to the
> > > > large number of sighted DBT users, for whom braille
may
> be just a
> > > > small part of their organisations daily work.
> > > >
> > > > If it were only practical, possible and above all,
> affordable, I'm
> > > > sure Duxbury would ideally like to buy in some kind
of
> > > licence for a
> > > > top end
> > > > Word Processor.
> > > >
> > > > My own attitude, which has developed over many
years, is
> > > that the vast
> > > > majority of editors in braille programs are just
that -
> > > editors.  They
> > > > are for final last minute tweaking.
> > > >
> > > > As DBT has evolved, especially over the last year or
> two, I have
> > > > tended to use Word for Windows as my primary
> preparation program.
> > > >
> > > > One of the main reasons for this, is that Word is so
> > > commonly used in
> > > > the non-braille world, that it is much easier for me
to
> > > develop a DBT
> > > > user's existing Word skills, than try to teach them
the
> > > intricacies,
> > > > foibles and nuances of DBT's editor and codes right
from the 
> > > > outset.
> > > >
> > > > Given a well formatted Word document, one can be in
and out of 
> > > > DBT, and have the embosser rattling away in a
relatively short 
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Our biggest challenge when we run training courses,
is to teach 
> > > > the proper use of Word itself.  Styles and Templates
being the
> > > area where
> > > > most people get stuck.  However, it is highly
> gratifying to hear
> > > > students commenting on how much more efficient their
daily
> > > use of Word
> > > > has become as a result.  Once they begin to
understand such
> > > things in
> > > > Word, when it is applied to braille, again it is
more easily 
> > > > understood.
> > > >
> > > > One embosser manufacturer's tag phrase is, "We make
it easy
> > > to produce
> > > > braille".  That's exactly what I aim to do when we
are training 
> > > > people, especially those new to braille.
> > > >
> > > > Contrary to popular opinion, braille is not exactly
rocket 
> > > > science. So let's try and keep as much mystery out
of it as 
> > > > possible, and make braille more easily and readily
> available for
> > > > its readers.
> > > >
> > > > George Bell
> > > > Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steve Dresser [mailto:s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: 24 January 2003 21:17
> > > > > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [duxuser] Re: Another item for the wish
list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 1/24/03 12:30 George Bell wrote:
> > > > > >However, where do we draw the line between a
braille 
> > > > > >translation package and a word processor?
> > > > > I know what you're saying, George, but that line
was obscured 
> > > > > the minute an editor became part of DBTW.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
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