Hi gang,
Jackie, your comparison is an interesting one.
I have the Envision app but haven't used it to any great extent. It seems to me
Envision put all the PR on the glasses, rather than the app I haven't really
found a good tutorial on using the app. I would imagine the vast majority of
Envision users use the app and only a small percentage use the glasses! I think
this is a real shame, as more info on the app could be very useful
Martin, good luck on the GeeGees next Saturday!
Eamonn
On 1 Aug 2022, at 17:55, Jackie McBrearty <teambanglesltd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:===========================================================
Excellent minutes Cearbhall.
I can semi answer Martin's question on the envision glasses verses the OrCam.
I had the chance to try the Envision glasses out via work and the only thing
that was any good was call an ally which means using your contacts you can
call a friend using the glasses. The friend needs to download the Envision
Ally app and register.
I did not like the reading ability of the envision glasses, the app has never
been good so I held out little hope for the glasses.
I tried the OrCam when down in Galway with Tom and these are simply amazing
for reading. They are far superior than the envision glasses. Plus the OrCam
looks more normal and more discrete than the Envision glasses.
I'm team OrCam.
Jackie
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On 1 Aug 2022, at 4:21 p.m., Cearbhall O'Meadhra===========================================================
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Participants: 6
Stuart opened the discussion wondering how to get the function keys on his
laptop to work with NVDA. The solution, was discovered at the Cork meeting
last Saturday, and meant holding down the FN key to make the function keys
F1 to F12 work as they normally do on a PC. Being careful to press the NVDA
key first and then the FN key holding both down while pressing the required
function key.
This led to a follow-up question of how to lock the FN key in the alternate
position so that it would not need to be pressed every time. This is
something to bring back to the next meeting.
Martin has been experimenting with the new envision glasses. which are
available for €2000. He wondered how they might compare with the OrCam
glasses sported by Tom. However, this will need further investigation.
As this is a holiday session, moving along at an easy pace, each person
agreed to describe the best use they get from an assistive device.
Annette began with the iPhone using Voiceover. She uses it for phone calls,
text messages, audio books, WhatsApp and photos.
Martin's favourite app is Soundscape by Microsoft on the iPhone. He enjoys
its accuracy and can pinpoint bollards, regular shops and road junctions.
However, the most magnificent device he has ever known is the Blind Shell
sold by NCBI for about €450. This is a feature phone with specific apps
which NCBI has loaded into it. He demonstrated that he can access his
contacts, make phone calls, run YouTube, listen to the radio on the train
and use the recorder. It is half the size of an iPhone and fits easily into
a shirt pocket.
Tom loves his iPhone. He can download audio books from several audio
libraries, read and send email and text messages. make phone calls, scan
documents, and navigate his way inside and outside the house. Tom also
sports an OrCam which he uses to negotiate the streets of Galway and to scan
and read print books.
Joe uses the iPhone for calls, text messaging, WhatsApp, banking, Facebook,
Zoom, navigation with the Lazarillo app and apps relating to amateur radio.
He also uses a desktop PC running JAWS, managing amateur radio apps sending
and receiving emails and gaining access to the internet.
Tom lost his way and could not get back after taking a phone call during the
meeting. He was delighted to find that he could get back in by opening the
app switcher to tap on Zoom without having to log back into the meeting.
Annette learned that recently arrived travellers from Sidney and Dubai were
all wearing masks but when they got to London and Dublin there was not a
mask in sight! Let’s hope our confidence will be rewarded!
Martin withdrew from the meeting with a triumphant announcement that he was
having sour dough for lunch instead of his normal ancient roll today. He
will be seen next week at the races throwing, his money around and sporting
his best top hat and tails!
The meeting ended.
All the best,
Cearbhall
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