[ibis-macro] Back-channel BIRD discussion

  • From: "Dmitriev-Zdorov, Vladimir" <vladimir_dmitriev-zdorov@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 20:21:37 +0000

Hi Walter,

A couple comments/questions about the presentation.

I agree that Rx optimization (e.g. made in INIT) can do almost everything since 
Rx knows the channel's response. If Rx were to know how to set Tx equalization, 
it could find the optimal tap coefficients and send them to Tx. This statement 
remains true regardless of the backchannel support. Therefore there is a 
question. Why in our regular flow we call Tx INIT prior to Rx INIT? Maybe we 
should allow Rx INIT be first? Then, it can update impulse response 
accordingly. If we have a mechanism to pass tap values from Rx to Tx, that's 
fine. If we don't, then Tx can receive the impulse response modified by Rx 
optimization and do the best it can.

Second is about making BCI file a property of Rx, a tempting idea, considering 
that in the current BIRD BCI file should be read/understood by Tx, Rx and EDA 
tool. The last is required in the current spec to allow EDA tool to generate 
the training pattern, as required by the protocol. Making your proposal, do you 
mean that Rx training can be made on any reasonable input, not only by that 
specified by the back-channel communication protocol?

Vladimir





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On Behalf Of Ambrish Varma
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 6:56 AM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Revised Backchannel BIRD

Hi All,
The latest version of the Backchannel BIRD (draft 8) has been uploaded on the 
ATM website and is available here:
http://www.vhdl.org/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20140401/ambrishvarma/Backchannel%20support%20BIRD%20147%20draft%208/Backchannel_BIRD147_Draft8.docx
Or
http://tinyurl.com/o8cqyqr

This is the version that was discussed at the 04/01/2014 ATM and includes 
support for AMI_Init/Statistical Backchannel training.

Please let me know if there are any questions.

Thanks,
Ambrish.

Ambrish Varma.
Cadence Design Systems.

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