[ibis-macro] Re: Enclosed is an ammendment to BIRD 122 (AMI Analog Model)

  • From: <fangyi_rao@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx>, <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:19:27 -0700

Thanks, Walter. For my question #2 (parameter value selection mechanism) I 
meant non-AMI parameters in the regular IBIS model.

Fangyi

From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:14 AM
To: RAO,FANGYI (A-USA,ex1); ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Enclosed is an ammendment to BIRD 122 (AMI Analog 
Model)

Fangyi,


1.       Yes. As long as they are ISS element (which are LTI by definition).

2.       Yes. One can either manually select the values of Cc, Rs, ..., or use 
the Dependency Tables as defined in BIRD 123 to set Cc, Rs, ... based in 
selection of model specific parameters (e.g. Tx_Strength (akd Tx_Swing) which 
has an impact on both Vol, Voh, and Rs for example).

Walter

From: fangyi_rao@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fangyi_rao@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:07 PM
To: wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Enclosed is an ammendment to BIRD 122 (AMI Analog 
Model)

Thanks, Walter. I'd like to add two more questions to the list:


1.       Can the analog model consist of both lumped elements and S-parameters? 
In SPICE simulation it's certainly allowed.

2.       AMI provides a very flexible mechanism to set parameter values through 
Format (List, Range, Steps, etc) so that user can configure the model in many 
different parameter permutations. Can we extend that mechanism to IBIS analog 
model parameters so usage of [Model Selector] can be avoided for different 
settings?

Regards,
Fangyi

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Walter Katz
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 7:20 AM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] Enclosed is an ammendment to BIRD 122 (AMI Analog Model)

All,

The enclosed document describes an addition to BIRD 122 that allows the IC 
Vendor to define an ISS template to be used when generating the the Impulse 
Response of a channel.

I accept that the following two questions need to be clarified, but they are 
the same question whether the ISS subckt is specified using this method, or the 
method  proposed by Arpad in BIRDS 116-118.


1.       When describing a driver, what's the exact nature of the signal 
delivered to the die ports?

2.       When describing a receiver, how, exactly, are the die-side ports 
loaded and measured?

Walter

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