My recollection is this: We allow the case of GetWave() being present in the DLL, despite the fact that GetWaveExists is set to False in the AMI file, in order to accommodate people, whom are using a generic template for their model creation, which template contains the "shells" of ALL AMI functions, regardless of whether or not the implementations of those functions are fleshed out. -db -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:43 AM To: Bob Ross; radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 9/10/2013 Bob, Just because the function exists, it doesn't mean that we have to use it... But the other question is whether it is OK to say Exists=false when the function is there in the DLL? I think the answer to that in case of the GetWave function was that you can do it, but in that case it shouldn't be used. I think the intent here was the same for Resove_Exists... Arpad ================================================================ -----Original Message----- From: Bob Ross [mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:37 PM To: radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx; Muranyi, Arpad; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 9/10/2013 Arpad, Radek Then Resolve_Exists provides useful information about the executable model. Is it ok to NOT have any dependent (Usage Dep) parameters in the .ami file if Resolve_Exists True? Bob -----Original Message----- From: radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:33 AM To: Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx; bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 9/10/2013 Arpad, Bob added the rule, not the parameter. Hi Bob, Resolve_Exists is similar to GetWave_Exists, and it only states that the AMI_Resolve() function is present in the executable model. The syntactical rule is that the .ami file may contain a Dep parameters only when the Resolve_Exists is True. But the function may exist regardless of Usage set in the file. Radek -----Original Message----- From: Muranyi, Arpad [mailto:Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:31 AM To: bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; BIERNACKI,RADEK (A-Sonoma,ex1); ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 9/10/2013 Bob, I think you were the one who added the "Resolve_Exists" words to the text I proposed... Thanks, Arpad ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Ross Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:19 PM To: radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 9/10/2013 Radek: Why do we need the Resolve_Exists .ami parameter? Would just the Usage Dep be sufficient to notify the EDA tool and executable model that the parameter is dependent? (All of the other rules could be put in the Usage Dep portion of the BIRD.) (Note Resolve_Exists False already makes it syntactically wrong to have any Usage Dep in the file. Bob -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:02 AM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 9/10/2013 Hi All, For today's ATM meeting, please review the latest draft of BIRD155.1. It contains changes reflecting our discussion last week and the e-mail exchanges that followed up our discussion. Thanks to Arpad and Bob for their input. 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