[ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for February 23, 2021

  • From: "Hwang, Chulsoon" <hwangc@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 14:53:48 +0000

Dear ATM Task group,

Thanks for the feedbacks yesterday and it was a great discussion!
Attached please find the paper about the PSIJ modeling in IBIS.
This paper has been submitted to the IEEE EMC+SIPI symposium 2021 and is under 
review now.

Regards,
Chulsoon

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On 
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Subject: [ibis-macro] IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for February 23, 2021

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Agenda
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1)  Opens
2)  Roll call
3)  Review of ARs:

Arpad and Ambrish:  Suggest a better name for Use_New_Flow
         - done (Arpad suggested a parameter name for Fangyi in a
           private email before Fangyi submitted the BIRD to the
           IBIS Open Forum).

Any other AR-s?


4)  Call for any IBIS related patent disclosures
5)  Approval of minutes


6)  Supporting PI modeling/simulation in IBIS               (Zhiping)
    - introducing a new BIRD by Chulsoon (Hwang)


7)  BIRD210 New Redriver AMI Flow                            (Fangyi)
    - discussion (requested by the IBIS Open Forum)


8)  Clarification for PAM4 threshold                         (Hansel)
    - introduce/discuss a new BIRD draft


9)  GDDR6x signaling update                                   (Randy)
    - update?


10) Motion to adjourn?


Topic bin list:
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- Parameter directionality summary (Mike M.)
- Removing the single-ended input threshold requirements for
  differential buffers  (Mike M.?)
- Removing the single-ended characterization load requirements for
  differential buffers  (Mike M.?)
- Fix all the referencing problems in the current specification
  (after Randy's C_comp proposal and BIRD189 are done)
  (BIRD181.1 Bob, Mike L.)
- Guidance for power-aware vs. AMI models - do we have rules for
  how a power-aware (and therefore potentially non-LTI) buffer
  analog data set should be used with IBIS-AMI algorithmic data?
  (important topic - 2018 ASIA IBIS Summit presentations)
  (the spec. may not need to be changed for this)
- Digital signing of DLL/SO files.  Should it be mentioned in the
  spec, or required?


Tabled ARs:
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Tabled topics:
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11) Old Redriver flow proposals/BIRDs
    a) Intel's Redriver Flow presentation                     (Intel)
    b) 166.4  Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow     (Walter)
    c) BIRD190                                              (Ambrish)
    d) Fangyi's (old) Redriver flow BIRD draft               (Fangyi)
       - add equations
       - consider rewriting the AMI "front end" in the spec (flows)
         (when this proposal is added to the spec)


12) Support for RDL in IBIS                                 (Walter)


13) Jitter HF/LF components and Jitter Amplification       (Mike M.)


14) Other DDR5 related topics
    - rise fall asymmetry


15) New BIRDs from Editorial Task Group?                  (Bob/Radek)
    a) Specify buffer reference terminals for pins ([Pin Reference])
    b) Simulation (aka DIA) vs. DUT (depends on #a)
    c) C_comp and package reference in simulation clarifications
       (depends on #a)
    d) Make changes to the [Receiver Threshold], once a) and b) are
       resolved


16) How to handle missing min/max data?                       (Arpad)
    - what should be the governing rule for synchronizing
      typ/min/max data?


Pending BIRDs awaiting discussion:
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166.4  Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow
190    Clarification for Redriver Flow
TBD    New proposal for Redriver Flow (may replace BIRD166)

Thanks,

Arpad
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