[ibis-macro] IBIS-Macro Meeting agenda for 8/22/2006

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  • Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:48:48 -0700

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Agenda
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1) Review of ARs:
   - Ian invite a SystemC expert to speak to us about APIs

2) Finalize the name of the subcommittee.  Suggested names:
   - SerDes
   - Advanced Technology
   - Advanced Modeling

3) Continue the discussion on the Cadence API proposal.

I prepared a short summary of our discussions here with the hope that
this will help us to focus on the real issues and hopefully find a
resolution quickly.  Our ultimate goal is to decide how to proceed
from here.  Continue developing more advanced library functions or
entertain the idea of the API and eventually write a BIRD for the
IBIS specification for an API?

o  API for compiled vs. ASCII readable model
   - compiled models not desirable because separate compilations
     would have to be generated for each OS and compiler switch
     settings can make things incompatible very quickly
   - binary format not sufficient for IP protection
   - encrypted (and/or obfuscated) ASCII models may be the best

o  C vs. *-AMS or linear vs. non-linear simulation engine?
   - the 10 million bits per hour capability is due to using
     a linear simulation engine, not because of the choice of
     the C language
   - no linear simulators exist today which can use *-AMS
   - the assumption of linearity may not be sufficient
   - existing infrastructure: it is too big of a burden to
     rewrite existing libraries in another language or request
     model makers to learn a new language.  Should both C and
     *-AMS be supported?     

o  Is there a need for a new API in IBIS?
   - there are numerous (standard) API-s on the market already
   - the existing [External Model] or [Extern Circuit] keywords
     may be used for this purpose (with small modifications)

o  Specification related questions
   - do not standardize methodologies, it prevents evolution
   - prefer flexible definitions which are extendable later
   - should this be part of the IBIS specification, or a new,
     independent specification?

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