Audio ===== Voice dial-in: 877-384-0543 Passcode: 1371-5030 Web === SiSoft Engineering has invited you to attend a Live Meeting. Click Here to Join Live Meeting Subject: Weekly IBIS-Macro Meeting Meeting URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join Meeting ID: NKQQN3 Meeting Key: TP8j#-%~5 Role: Attendee FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== 1) Review of ARs: - Ian invite a SystemC expert to speak to us about APIs 2) Finalize the name of the subcommittee. Suggested names: - SerDes - Advanced Technology - Advanced Modeling 3) Continue the discussion on the Cadence API proposal. I prepared a short summary of our discussions here with the hope that this will help us to focus on the real issues and hopefully find a resolution quickly. Our ultimate goal is to decide how to proceed from here. Continue developing more advanced library functions or entertain the idea of the API and eventually write a BIRD for the IBIS specification for an API? o API for compiled vs. ASCII readable model - compiled models not desirable because separate compilations would have to be generated for each OS and compiler switch settings can make things incompatible very quickly - binary format not sufficient for IP protection - encrypted (and/or obfuscated) ASCII models may be the best o C vs. *-AMS or linear vs. non-linear simulation engine? - the 10 million bits per hour capability is due to using a linear simulation engine, not because of the choice of the C language - no linear simulators exist today which can use *-AMS - the assumption of linearity may not be sufficient - existing infrastructure: it is too big of a burden to rewrite existing libraries in another language or request model makers to learn a new language. Should both C and *-AMS be supported? o Is there a need for a new API in IBIS? - there are numerous (standard) API-s on the market already - the existing [External Model] or [Extern Circuit] keywords may be used for this purpose (with small modifications) o Specification related questions - do not standardize methodologies, it prevents evolution - prefer flexible definitions which are extendable later - should this be part of the IBIS specification, or a new, independent specification? =============================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe