[ibis-macro] Minutes for the 09 may 2006 ibis-macro meeting
- From: "Mike LaBonte \(milabont\)" <milabont@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:42:45 -0400
Minutes for the 09 may 2006 ibis-macro meeting are attached.
Mike
Meeting date: 09 may 2006
Members (asterisk for those attending):
Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp.
*Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group
*Todd Westerhoff, Cisco Systems
*Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems
Paul Fernando, NCSU
Barry Katz, SiSoft
Walter Katz, SiSoft
Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems
Ian Dodd, Mentor Graphics
Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems
*Richard Ward, Texas Instruments
Doug White, Cisco Systems
Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent
Joe Abler, IBM
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Review of ARs:
- Mike send begin/end marker usage to Arpad
- Done.
- Ian ask Gary Pratt for public domain models
- Done, Gary asked to join this meeting.
- Joe send Mike info on IEEE proposals for minutes
- Done, included in minutes.
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TI:
- TI must deliver models that have sufficient:
- performance
- accuracy
- like to run million bit simulations.
- Displaying data for receiver models:
- Receiver model has a quality-of-service indicator that must be
watched, for example.
- AMS tools have ways to monitor and display anything.
- In classic SI tools the measurements are somewhat fixed.
- Waveforms may be displayed, but no analysis.
- Compiled Matlab model is license free.
- Released under NDA to somewhat protect behavior details.
- Getting good results from Verilog
Encryption:
- Bob contacted John Shields to talk about encryption
- Mike contacted Steve Dovich
- Steve is away for a few weeks, but may be able to join us
at some point.
Meeting of Richard, Gary, Ian, and Todd in SJ:
- Contention about what VHDL-AMS can/can't do.
- Having IBIS wrappers around models is helpful.
- Discussion about what is not being modeled in transmitters.
- Making transmitters more accurate, but need to work on
receivers.
- Reflections
- Gary asked Richard to perform a sweep of drive characteristics.
- Probably need to run some patterns.
- Gary contends a digital/analog language is required.
- Richard has not found this yet.
Moving to phase 2:
- People needed:
- Describe the model requirements - semiconductor companies
- Modeling implementor - EDA
Matlab as a platform:
- Connecting IBM model to TI model:
- Can be done with compiled Matlab models
- TI algorithm yields large arrays to implement the transfer functions.
- Matlab code incorporates the simulator
- Key problem is defining the interface
- Competitors: MathCAD? Mathematica? Maple?
- IBIS has hooks for external languages
- Could we add [External Circuit] Matlab?
- EDA companies would define the interface
- Compiled Matlab:
- License to compile, not to run
- Can any vendor use the DLLs?
- Cadence working to integrate compiled Matlab
- How to make compiled models interoperate:
- Port interface for models must be standardized.
- Three layer simulation system:
- Compiled models
- Simulation "backplane" (written in Matlab)
- Matlab
- Google search: interfacing matlab dlls
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Next meeting: Tuesday 16 may 2006 12:00pm PT
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