[ibis-macro] Minutes from the 17 jul 2007 ibis-atm meeting
- From: "Mike LaBonte \(milabont\)" <milabont@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:57:55 -0400
Minutes from the 17 jul 2007 ibis-atm meeting are attached. ARs:
AR: Arpad: Review the new macro library files.
AR: Todd clarify "electrically isolated" in BIRD
AR: Michael Mirmak get specific data on the non-linear behavior problem
AR: Hemant will publish an open source reference model by Jul 17
AR: Todd send IBIS-ATM Model Validation presentation to Mike
AR: Mike post IBIS-ATM Model Validation to website
Mike
IBIS Macromodel Task Group
Meeting date: 26 Jun 2007
Members (asterisk for those attending):
* Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems
* Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp.
* Barry Katz, SiSoft
* Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group
* Doug White, Cisco Systems
* Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics
Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro
Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems
* Ian Dodd
Joe Abler, IBM
John Angulo, Mentor Graphics
John Shields, Mentor Graphics
Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems
Kumar, Cadence Design Systems
Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems
Luis Boluna, Cisco
* Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp.
* Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems
* Mike Steinberger, SiSoft
Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation
Paul Fernando, NCSU
* Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof)
* Randy Wolff, Micron Technology
Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems
Richard Ward, Texas Instruments
Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent
Shangli Wu, Cadence
Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems
Syed Huq, Cisco Systems
Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro
* Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft
Vikas Gupta, Xilinx
Vuk Borich, Agilent
* Walter Katz, SiSoft
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Call for patent disclosure:
No one declared a patent.
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Opens:
- Arpad has changed affiliation to Mentor Graphics
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Review of ARs:
- Arpad: Review the new macro library files.
- TBD
- Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD
- What is the history of this?
- May have started when Ian was at Mentor
- Created a "back door" way for EDA vendors to support old SPICE
with parameter passing using IBIS 4.1
- Ian wanted parameter passing for all extensions, not just ATM
- Ian willing to write a BIRD, but needs the ATM syntax first
- IBIS can not assign value while calling module in AMS
- TBD
- EDA vendors clarify "electrically isolated" in BIRD
- Conceptual distinction
- One part of circuit essentially does not affect others
- Walter had suggested "high impedance path"
- Assign to Todd
- TBD
- Arpad and Michael get specific data on the non-linear behavior problem
- Assign to Michael Mirmak
- Ambrish send draft AMI BIRD 1.0 for Mike to post on web site
- Done
- Hemant will publish an open source reference model by Jul 17
- TBD
- Ambrish include page numbers in AMI BIRD footer and revision table
- Done
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New Discussion:
Presentation by Todd: IBIS-ATM Model Validation:
- SiSoft is offering free software to validate API models.
- Page 6:
- Arpad pointed out that ibischk doesn't check any [External Model]s
or [External Circuit]s, whether they are compiled or not
- Page 7:
- Radek said that the man page document does not cover all issues.
- Page 9:
- Arpad asked Todd to reverse the order of the first two bullets
to match the pictures better.
- Doug asked if a reference RX model would be added.
- Todd will send Mike LaBonte a PDF to post.
Discussion of reference models and test plans:
- SiSoft will have a kit for distribution in a week or two.
- Source will be provided
- Source will be NOT be provided, but executable will have
debugging symbols to enable debugging.
- By next week Cadence and SiSoft will have models that can be tested.
- Cadence indicated that they also have a similar validation program
that they may share with the IBIS-ATM group.
- Arpad asked who can test models.
AR: Todd send IBIS-ATM Model Validation presentation to Mike
AR: Mike post IBIS-ATM Model Validation to website
Next meeting: 24 Jul 2007 12:00pm PT
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