[ibis-macro] Minutes from the 21 Aug 2007 ibis-atm meeting
- From: "Mike LaBonte \(milabont\)" <milabont@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:08:09 -0400
Minutes from the 21 Aug 2007 ibis-atm meeting are attached. ARs:
AR: SiSoft will propose a new reserved_parameter keyword table
AR: Ambrish send updated AMI BIRD proposal
Mike
IBIS Macromodel Task Group
Meeting date: 21 Aug 2007
Members (asterisk for those attending):
* Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems
* Arpad Muranyi, Mentor Graphics Corp.
Barry Katz, SiSoft
* Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group
David Banas, Xilinx
Donald Telian, consultant
Doug White, Cisco Systems
Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics
Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro
* Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems
Ian Dodd
Joe Abler, IBM
* John Angulo, Mentor Graphics
John Shields, Mentor Graphics
Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems
Kumar, Cadence Design Systems
Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems
Luis Boluna, Cisco
* Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp.
* Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems
* Mike Steinberger, SiSoft
Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation
Paul Fernando, NCSU
* Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof)
* Randy Wolff, Micron Technology
Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems
* Richard Ward, Texas Instruments
Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent
Shangli Wu, Cadence
Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems
Syed Huq, Cisco Systems
Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro
* Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft
Vikas Gupta, Xilinx
Vuk Borich, Agilent
Walter Katz, SiSoft
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Call for patent disclosure:
No one declared a patent.
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Opens:
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Review of ARs:
- Todd clarify "electrically isolated" in BIRD
- TBD
- Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD
- Left on AR list because the proposed BIRD may not cover all uses
- Arpad: Review the new macro library files.
- TBD
- Ian send relevant papers on related IEEE work
- TBD
- Michael M tentatively put the BIRD on the open forum agenda
- Done
- Thanks to Ambrish for catching it's absence the first time
- Mike L. send email list of active participants to Todd and Arpad
- Done
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New Discussion:
We are done with cross testing of AMI simulators and models.
AMI Toolkit availablity:
- Cadence has to finish documentation before releasing.
- Toolkit should be released to the ibis-atm group for review first.
- How to release for review:
- a) Post on web with limited notice, or
- b) Send by email to specific people only
- Will be posted on ibis-atm website
- Notification will go to ibis-macro list
Parameter passing BIRD:
- Arpad trying to produce a newer format
- Ambrish presented his changes:
- All info is on 1 "Executable" line within [Algorithmic Model] brackets.
- If there are 3 OSes, then there will be 3 lines, for example.
- Arpad: Is an external parameter file required all the time?
- Yes
- No path is allowed in file name
- Mike S:
- Usage and Type declarations may not be appropriate for reserved_parameters
- These are hardcoded into the tools
- But some reserved parameters like Tx_Jitter can be any one of 3 types
- Could have checking to make sure reserved parameters are not the wrong type.
- Reserved parameters should have their own definitions that imply type
- Will have to create new parameter names for input/output versions, etc.
- This will increase the number of parameters.
- Ignore_bits can be both In and Out
- A buffer might declare that some number of output bits are garbage
- The simulator may tell the buffer that some input bits are garbage
- Walter has worked on figuring out which In/Out combinations are appropriate.
- We could put it in the document as a real table
- Would require DOC/PDF format
- Still can be saved as TXT
AR: SiSoft will propose a new reserved_parameter keyword table
AR: Ambrish send updated AMI BIRD proposal
How to present the AMI BIRD to the IBIS open forum:
- The BIRD is 18 pages
- A presentation to the IBIS open forum may help
- It would be best to avoid going through the BIRD page by page in the forum
- Hemant: The existing presentation probably needs more detail
- Bob: Once the BIRD is stable we can make an editorial pass
- Arpad: Submitting the BIRD this Friday may not buy us any time if it
ends up needing revisions because it is not completely ready.
- Once submitted the BIRD gets a number and is announced
- BIRD has to be introduced at least 2 weeks before discussion can begin
- We agreed that Hemant would present at IBIS Friday
Can the Parameter Passing BIRD be used for general IBIS?
- Ambrish: probably needs changes
Next meeting: 28 Aug 2007 12:00pm PT
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