Bob, I am not sure that I understand your explanation. Either way, the problem with that is that the center line (the DC component) goes up/down between the strong and weak bits, introducing a common mode component to the signal which is not very desirable... Regarding the adder, you are making a good point, I didn't think of it when I reviewed the presentation. I really don't know why Todd put that there, but I can imagine that it may work if you used a current adder instead of voltage adder. I will have to think about that some more... Thanks, Arpad ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Bob Ross [mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:39 AM To: Muranyi, Arpad Cc: Todd Westerhoff; Mirmak, Michael; bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Question at IBIS Summit Arpad: You asked at the Summit meeting why the bottom side pre-emphasis (de-emphasis) was less than the top side in slide 8 of ross1.pdf for the SPICE simulation. My (expanded) response was that the pulldown impedance (of the Main) varied over the full range (1.8 V to .5 V), and the lower impedance (as seen by the Boost) at the lower end accounted for the reduced de-emphasis amplitude. This is also seen later in all the IBIS simulations when the buffer is constructed with [Driver Schedule] which take into account all the load interactions. The pre-emphasis template in Todd's presentation westerhoff.pdf slide 8 show the connection through an Adder function. This appears to remove any interactive load dependency. Is this correct? If so, then we need a different method of combination in the template to correctly mimic some real world situations. Bob -- Bob Ross Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC Teraspeed Labs 121 North River Drive 13610 SW Harness Lane Narragansett, RI 02882 Beaverton, OR 97008 401-284-1827 503-430-1065 http://www.teraspeed.com 503-246-8048 Direct bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Teraspeed is a registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website: http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-macro IBIS Macro archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe