Hi Greg, Rx training, when you consider real devices, don't have any idea how Tx's are behaving. In fact they don't even know if there is any Tx equalization exist. As such, there cannot and should not be any expectation that the simulators should handle Tx equalization any differently during Rx training. The only thing that the simulator has knowledge of is how many bits to ignore before it starts gathering data for analysis purposes. Glad you consider section 10 (or at least a part of it) clearly written :). Thanks, Ambrish. From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory R Edlund Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 12:04 PM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] RX Optimization Hello IBIS Comrades, My co-workers and I were having a discussion today about how simulators should handle TX equalization during RX training. I took an action item to run this past the Open Forum and make sure I was speaking correctly. "RX optimization (adaptive equalization), if it exists, occurs during Step 3, i.e. the call to RX AMI_Init. During optimization the RX algorithmic model must consider TX equalization, if it exists, and there is more than one way to accomplish this. Two are documented in the IBIS 5.1." By the way, Section 10.2.3.2 was clearly written. Most of our questions were answered simply by reading two pages of the spec. Greg Edlund Senior Engineer Signal Integrity and System Timing IBM Systems & Technology Group 3605 Hwy. 52 N Bldg 050-3 Rochester, MN 55901