[ibis-macro] Re: Unanswered question from last week.

  • From: David Banas <DBanas@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Walter Katz <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx>, "ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:17:12 +0000

I think my original question is more true to my intended inquiry, than either 
alternative you propose.

And, understand that the case I'm envisioning is one in which the user doesn't 
want EDA tool driven co-optimization to occur. (Otherwise, he'd do that.)
In such an instance, and if the user has opted to NOT use the Tx model 'co-opt' 
mode, but rather to use some 'auto' feature of the Tx model, in which that 
model chooses the optimum FIR coefficients based solely upon the channel 
impulse response and not expecting to take part in any Tx/Rx co-optimization, 
why must the Tx AMI_Init() function alert the EDA tool that it has done so?
(Mike M., that is what you were suggesting; right?)

Thanks,
-db


From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:29 PM
To: David Banas; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Unanswered question from last week.

David,

Your statement is not quite correct. I think the statement should be:

Why must the Tx .ami file tell the EDA tool, if it assisted the user in 
choosing "optimum" tap weights?
or
Why must the Tx .ami file tell allow the EDA tool to tell the Tx AMI_Init() to 
assist the user in choosing "optimum" tap weights?

The reason for letting the EDA tool know what the Tx AMI_Init() function is 
doing (or controlling what the Tx AMI_Init() function is doing is important in 
co-optimization, particularly in the statistical flow. The Rx AMI_Init needs to 
know the Tx equalization used to generate the input to the Rx AMI_Init, and 
when the Rx AMI_Init returns an optimized Tx tap coefficients, the Tx AMI_Init 
function needs to be called with these coefficients, and the Tx AMI_Init must 
use the equalization for these tap coefficients.

Does this answer your question?

Walter


From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Banas
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:30 PM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ibis-macro] Unanswered question from last week.

Hi all,

I asked a question, at the end of Walter's presentation last week, which I 
don't think was ever answered. So, I'd like to ask it, again:

Why must the Tx AMI_Init() function tell the EDA tool, if it assisted the user 
in choosing "optimum" tap weights?

(How, for instance, is this use case different than the user relying on, say, 
MATLAB to help him find optimum tap weights and setting those MATLAB-prescribed 
values in the AMI model, by hand?)

Thanks,
-db


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