[ibis-macro] Re: ibis-macro 11 oct 2005 meeting minutes
- From: "Mike LaBonte (milabont)" <milabont@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:36:59 -0400
yes, the minutes are attached this time
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Minutes attached. ARs from the last phone call:
AR: Mike will annotate library modules
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meeting date: 11 oct 2005
attending: Arpad Muranyi, Ian Dodd, Todd Westerhoff, Mike LaBonte
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Review of ARs:
none
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BIRD95
- Can be implemented with macros.
- Tie a table-driven current source to the power lead.
Review of Mike's library
- Mike released a library with 10 modules commented
- Comment comments:
- Why the "Behavior for R <= 0 is indeterminate."?
- Problem for simulators that don't like R=0
- Instance call examples:
- Show examples with fewer and more params
- Show HSPICE-specific examples
- Some with X1 and some with R1
- Show how it can be imlemented in a SPICE simulator in the header.
Review of Arpad's library
- Has 63 modules now
- IBIS_TCVS_PWL
- pre-programmed waveform, but not triggered
- IBIS_VECVS_PWL is triggered
- trigger on both edges?
- parameter for that, default is both
- ToDo list
- ECL?
- not needed now
- Series MOSFET would be useful because it is a 3D table
- These are for special use, not for general 3D tables
- The [On] [Off] state limitations make them undesirable
- S-param?
- would phase shift be modeled?
- could put into LaPlace
- simulators try to work with bad data
- but LaPlace likely to be inconsistent
- Do really need this yet?
- could be useful for packages
- but we are doing buffers for now
- B element with scaling?
- HSPICE handles it
- Cadence uses it
- Handy for buffer design
- Still, probably more complexity than we need
- Need more modules?
- No
- PREV_X?
- doable in AMS
- Cadence has used it
- simulator-specific
- Again, probably more complexity than we need
Someone needs to test Arpad's simulation files
- No volunteers yet
- Would like to have it tried in Spectre
We invited 10 companies, where are they?
- Should talk to them again
- What semiconductor companies?
- Ken was going to get a list
AR: Mike will annotate library modules
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Next meeting: Tuesday 18 oct 2005.
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