[mac4theblind] Re: Good Things About Mavricks
- From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 21:51:22 -0400
OK. Gotcha. I don’t know if this is gong to be a true evolution into iOS.
I think it will be more of a merge than anything else. The computer
environment, as you indicated, is a far different one than the iDecice, and I
believe Apple does understand this.
The shift has, of course, been from a marketing perspective and makes
sense. Users are switching to the Mac from Windows because of the iOS
experience. I can’t tell you how many people I have spoken to both sighted and
blind have done this. Thus, making OS X resemble iOS is an intelligent move.
However, I think there will be a point in which this shift will meet in the
middle.
Anyway, that is my two cents and I am tired …
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Samuel Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Basically, John, it has been proposed here and in other forums that Apple
> wants to merge both operating systems into one to focus their software
> development. Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I wanted to address
> my opinion on the issue in brief, and then David asked me to elaborate.
>
> My reason for this thread, though, not to be derailed, is to discuss the cool
> new features we like about Mavricks, to offset the multiple bug threads going
> on.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:26 PM, "John Panarese" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I will admit I am very tired and have had along day, but I am not sure what
>> the point of the complaint is here. iOS and Mac OS X are two different
>> animals. I do not think that VoiceOver is going to turn into a same sort of
>> thing for both operating systems. I also think that as much as Apple is
>> trying to make OS X resemble iOS, it will never be completely the same. It
>> is exactly the reason that people use computers for different reasons and in
>> different ways then they do with their iDevices.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:44 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the synchronicity.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonnie Appleseed
>>> With His
>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
>>> touching the internet
>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities
>>> One Byte At a time
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Sam Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Basically, it’s an issue of complexity. If it is going to work, iOS has to
>>> become a heck of a lot more complex, and OS X either has to maintain their
>>> current level of complexity or become even more so. The philosophy that
>>> governs iOS right now is to utterly control the user experience and to have
>>> it as simple as possible to appeal to the widest audience. For the most
>>> part, it works for them, but that’s because people use their phones for
>>> different reasons than people use their desktop/laptop. For example, I love
>>> that my phone has Works on it and iLife, but to be frank, I’m rarely ever
>>> going to use it on my phone, or even my iPad when I get it, and my sighted
>>> friends agree and blind friends both agree, so it’s a cross cultural
>>> rejection of the idea..
>>>
>>> When people use a desktop, they want to fiddle with the file system, they
>>> want to have multiple approaches to doing things so they can interact with
>>> their computer how they wish, people like precision and being able to
>>> manage large workflows, people like coding, doing complex editing tasks
>>> requiring more precise tools, people like playing games and using programs
>>> that require loads of computing power. All these things, iOS can’t do, or
>>> does to a far lesser degree, and that’s fine, but to apply that to OS X
>>> would be a disaster.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hate to bring up this point, again, but in general, people dislike
>>> dictatorial styles of running things. It makes people feel like children
>>> being told what to do and how to do it, and the evidence points to Apple,
>>> unfortunately, being fairly heavy handed.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:04 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman
>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> why don’t you like the trend?
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Samuel Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here a few things I've been enjoying about the new update.
>>>>
>>>> 1. I've noticed apps and things seem to load faster and process faster.
>>>> It's enough of an increase that my fairly oblivious self notice it, and
>>>> I'm on a 4 month old machine.
>>>> 2. In general, I think the iOS ification of OS X is a bad direction for
>>>> Apple to go, I do like some aspects, however, e.g. the way VO describes
>>>> pictures is super neat, telling you if the photo has a face, whether it's
>>>> clear or blurry, etc.
>>>> 3. With reading text, VO seems to be more responsive and precise. This was
>>>> oe of my frustrations originally with OS X.
>>>>
>>>> What do you like about Mavricks?
>>>>
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