H Joan,
It’s an interesting contrast. If you try groups mode, I would suggest
using a simpler website such as Apple.com <http://apple.com/>. If you try a
more complex website, VoiceOver will produce busy signals here and there as the
page is reorganized and you navigate it.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
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On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joan Ann Brosnan <jabrosnan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi John
Thanks for this. I have now managed to organise my favourites.
I will certainly try out the 2 different modes on websites that I am familiar
with.
Joan Ann.
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On 8 Mar 2020, at 7:07 p.m., John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello,
Basically, DOM order with Safari and VoiceOver displays the website how
it visually appears. There is no attempt to organize or group elements, and
the user navigates the site just as a sighted person would see them do so.
Groups mode attempts to organize the website into groups of similar
content. In essence, VoiceOver tries to simplify and display content in a way
in which a blind user can see what belongs to what areas of a website.
The best way to see the difference is to take a site you are familiar with
and try browsing it from either perspective. This will really give you the
best idea.
In order to change the order of your favorites, you have to choose to,
Edit Bookmarks, from the Bookmarks menu of Safari. In there, you will find a
table that lists your favorites. You want to expand the section that says,
Favorites, if it’s not already expanded, and then copy and paste the
favorites with command-c and Command-v to organize them how you would like
them to appear in a specific order.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com ;<http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL (ACSP)
Apple Certified Trainer (ACT)
Apple Performance Partner
MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
On Mar 7, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Joan Ann Brosnan <jabrosnan@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jabrosnan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all
I would be very grateful for some help with Safari.
My first question is can someone tell me the difference between the Dom
setting and the group setting in voiceover.
My second question is about managing favourites in safari. There are
favourites using the command option +numbers to access a webhsite quickly.
Is it possible for me to change those websites to ones that I regularly use?
Thanks for help
Joan Ann.
Sent from my iPhone
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