[mac4theblind] Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!
- From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:36:03 -0700
Replyign to myself here. How did your friend's mac go when isntallign ml? My
upgrade went fine. I saw him check in t th dapple store w twitter but nothing
after that. If he can post a solution to what happened that would be cool.
Take care and be blessed.
On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I would have just rebooted from the DVD that you should have burned int he
> first place and made a clean install. The last time I did an upgrade a
> disaster like this happened.
>
> I'm thinking stuff might have physically happened with the hard drive or it's
> about to happen.
>
> Keep us posted with the apple store appointment. as that's very odd.
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>
>> David, why would I quote: kill the messenger? I see nothing at all
>> objectionable nor offensive in your mail. You're trying to help, and for
>> that I thank you.
>>
>> Yes, we did try toggling vo off/on. I agree it's possible that we may have
>> had a corrupted download, but if that is the case, why did the installer
>> come up after downloading at all. If the checksums were not correct,
>> wouldn't that have made the file crash, and not even open to start with?
>>
>> I dono, maybe I'm to expectant of things, but, yeah...
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Hilbert Poehlman
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 8:39 AM
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!
>>
>> as I was listening to this, I waited to hear if toggling vo had been
>> attempted while the mountain lion boot process was going on. I know you
>> watched the load process, but it might have been interesting to know if vo
>> might have run during the process.
>>
>> I don't fully understand the end of the process. it sounds like you got
>> lion up and running from the external hd though. If so, I'd try going to
>> recovery again and this time, run all the repair process in disc utility to
>> see if anything is amiss.
>>
>> It is also possible that your copy of ml was damaged.
>>
>> I also wonder but it probably is if the system is capable of running ml.
>>
>> Please don't kill the messenger here. It's to early in the morning for that.
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Carlos Palomino <chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Honestly, CHris, that narrative was exhausting.
>>
>> And, this is only constructive criticism here, but why not take advantage of
>> spell check?
>> It reads poorly with VO, leading to our unwillingness to read further and
>> thus, try to help you.
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Wendy <wendy.poth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> The only thing that is more awful than this book you just wrote is what
>>> parts of it I understood. I got the sh** and the, blankity blank, the hell
>>> was easy along with the woopse, for using the H*** word but after all that
>>> I was lost.
>>> I think at the end of the book all was well accept for your understanding
>>> regarding how the book wrote itself? Have I got that? LOL.
>>> That was really fun to read so thanks for taking the time to help your
>>> friend F up and fix it. Are you all still friends?
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:58 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>> <cgilland1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so, if this isn't totally bizarre, I don't know what is!
>>>>
>>>> My best friend, who like me, is an Avid primary Mac user decided to
>>>> install Mountain Lion yesterday. So, he went to the app store with my
>>>> help, and we bought and downloaded ML with his Apple ID.
>>>>
>>>> All went perfectly, from what we could see at first. I should add before
>>>> we go any further that he has identically the same model macbook that I
>>>> have... the mid 2010 stocked white 13 inch. This system is not a macbook
>>>> pro. Beware. It is just the standard mid 2010 white 13 inch.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, he went through the install window, and the system restarted as
>>>> expected to finish the installation. We hear the startup chime, and think
>>>> all is well. We give it a few minutes, then hit command+F5. Sure enough,
>>>> Voiceover came up with the Fred voice talking perfectly. We were quite
>>>> satisfied so far. The progress indicator looked perfect, and was moving
>>>> along just fine. Once it reached 100%, the system restarted as expected.
>>>> I told him get ready, here comes ML! You're gonna love this. Huhho!
>>>> Boy? oh, boy? was I? wrong! I should a said: Get ready! Here comes
>>>> disaster!
>>>>
>>>> We hear the chime, and wait? and wait, and wait some more? and continue
>>>> waiting? and more waiting? and, oh, by the freaking way, did I by chance
>>>> mention, waited? LOL! So now, great as I am, not just at the mac, but in
>>>> general with trouble shooting technology, I'm going, well? sh**! Um?
>>>> Like, uh, hmm! what the! Heck? So here I am, trying to figure out, what
>>>> in the God blessid heck happened, as I swear! we didn't do anything! out
>>>> of the ordinary from anyone else. So, I had him shut down, and simply
>>>> restart by holding his power button down. I know, bad? move, but what
>>>> else were we gonna do!? He was hung! We kind a had no other choice of
>>>> the matter. It was either do that, or sit here and watch the perty apple
>>>> whilst singing: I haven't gotta clue, I don't know what to say, what the
>>>> bird is wrong with it, all the do dah day. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! So, it
>>>> reboots, we hear the chime, and again, we wait for all eternity. Nothing
>>>> happens. Just that stupid little apple on the grey background that shows
>>>> it's loading. You know, kind a the Darwin boot loader, I guess you'd call
>>>> it, ish. No error messages that I know a, just the blasted thing not
>>>> booting. It's totally weird, as it said! it installed correctly.
>>>>
>>>> So, the next thing I had 'em do, was to go into the hidden recovery
>>>> partition by hitting command+R once he heard the startup chime. That
>>>> worked absolutely flawlessly. He did hit the ML, not the Lion, Recovery
>>>> Partition with no issue at all. So I'm going: Sh'sh'shewwwww! At least?
>>>> that worked! So, only cause I didn't feel like having him fetch an
>>>> ethernet cord from the back of his desktop windows machine out in the
>>>> living room, which would a waken his folks up, plus is way back in a
>>>> cavinet which, yeah, good luck trying to get that tower pulled out to get
>>>> back there with all the cords in the way... LOL! So, at my disgression,
>>>> I had him go up to the airport icon in the menu bar instead, and connect
>>>> to his wifi network. That worked again, perfectly. Once connected, I had
>>>> him try to reinstall from the recovery partition. That worked again
>>>> perfectly. Then the system restarted, but here's the weird thing. Then,
>>>> it went again through this stupid progression thing again. It's almost
>>>> like it repeated the installation. it didn't sho anything different it
>>>> was doing. The extra components it had to download did go through
>>>> successfully, so it's not like it got hung there. Trust me. We both
>>>> watched the screen with Voiceover very closely.
>>>>
>>>> Once this all was done, the system restarted a second time. just as we
>>>> thought he would be good to go, we hear the chime, lots of hard disk
>>>> activity for about maybe 10 minutes, then no activity, and just regular
>>>> fan noise, nothing unusual sounding. It's not like his processor was over
>>>> heating, as there wasn't any fan noise out of the ordinary. I'd think the
>>>> EFI would a kicked in causing the fan to rev up to cool down had there
>>>> been an issue. OK, yeah, there is the possibility he has a bad EFI, but
>>>> it's real unlikely. Especially being what I'm gonna tell you all we did
>>>> here in just a second that proves that not to be the case.
>>>>
>>>> So, you can imagine, by this point, I'm pulling my hair out trying to
>>>> figure out what the hel., parden the language, is going on!
>>>>
>>>> Finally it dawned on me, maybe, just? maybe, it's the PRam having issues.
>>>> Again, it's really doubtful, I completely agree with you all, but at this
>>>> point, we really had nothing to lose. If you're wonderring, well D*** it,
>>>> Chris? why didn't you think to have him go to disk utility and run a
>>>> disk/permission verification and repair the disk/permissions, if needed.
>>>> The only reason I didn't have him yet do that, is because not even a week
>>>> ago literally! not even 7 days ago literally speaking, I myself had his
>>>> macbook literally in my hand, as he came down here for 3 weeks to visit
>>>> with me, and I ran a disk repair/permission repair at that point, as his
>>>> finder kept saying busy busy busy almost constantly, and so we thought
>>>> maybe something with the drive was screwed. Sure enough, it was, and I
>>>> repaired, and according to the log, it was fixed 100% of the way. So, I
>>>> didn't really think yet to have him try that, as why! He only just did it
>>>> and fixed things not even a week before. So, it just kind a seemed thus,
>>>> pointless.
>>>>
>>>> I did however finally have him do this, and nothing at all came back with
>>>> errors. The drive appears to be completely 100% fine.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, in disk utility, I had him go to the macintosh HD volume, not?
>>>> the actual disk, but just? the partition/volume. Then on the erase tab, I
>>>> had him erase the disk entirely. I don't mean erase free space, I mean
>>>> just the full erase. Once done, I had him quite disk utility. Obviously,
>>>> we were doing this from the ML recovery partition.
>>>>
>>>> I had him do it this way, and not literally set the partition scheme from
>>>> current back to 1 partition, as for one thing, I knew if we did that, it
>>>> wouldn't a worked, as files were in use from the hidden recovery
>>>> partition, which we were currently booted into, so even had! we done it,
>>>> it wouldn't a worked. Plus, hypothetically, had! it been technically
>>>> possible, I knew it would a been a real stupid move, as that! would a not
>>>> only! wiped his macintosh hd volume with the supposedly installed OS, it
>>>> also would a licked his hidden recovery partition clean, so, yeah, that
>>>> was out of the question.
>>>>
>>>> What my goal ultimately was, was to have 'em erase the macintosh hd, and
>>>> reformat it, just in case something really was going totally wackid. Once
>>>> he did this, I had him try, without first restarting to reinstall. At
>>>> this point, he did get the option to not only reinstall, but to install a
>>>> new copy, which we didn't see before. He clicked it, but then the install
>>>> button was dimmed. I had him reclick the new copy just in case we'd some
>>>> how toggled that option off. Still, no good.
>>>>
>>>> I wondered if it had somehow again decided to be a thing, so I had him
>>>> restart. Worst? choice, I ever? could a haddem make! Once that happened,
>>>> we hear the chime, he holds command+R down, and no? dice! It didn't even
>>>> let 'em go into recovery any longer! I'm going, what the blue flying
>>>> blankity blank! I didn't even touch! his hidden partition! I couldn't!
>>>> it's so hidden, even had I wanted to! I couldn't. I didn't have him wipe
>>>> the partition scheme, and again, even had I, it wouldn't a worked since
>>>> that partition was mounted, as was in use running the recovery, to start
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> So, I had him plug his external Seagate go flex USB 500gb drive in which
>>>> has a Super Dooper backup on it of his Lion install which was quite
>>>> recent. I had him boot, while holding down the option key, to see if we
>>>> could boot to it. No good.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, right as he said he was going to take the b***ard into the Apple
>>>> Store in his area, I told him to try in despiration one? last thing. I
>>>> had him leave the drive plugged in, and reboot, this time, without!
>>>> holding down the option key. Guess what folks!? Boom! Drive wirreled
>>>> up, we waited about a minute or two, and boom! Voiceover came right the
>>>> heck up talking with his Lion bootted Super Doop drive from the Go Flex
>>>> drive. I had him doop it back over to the macintosh hd.
>>>>
>>>> That too, worked perfectly. I had him then shut down, then remove, only!
>>>> then, the go flex drive from the USB port, then restart.
>>>>
>>>> Guess what? Again: Boom! it booted like gold! Flawlessly!
>>>>
>>>> So, what in the cotton blessed heavens gives here! I am beside myself!
>>>> This is totally! killing me! I hardly ever stump at this kind a thing,
>>>> but I'm totally cluelessly baffled! When we called Apple today, he
>>>> spoke to a senior advisor, who was pretty well just, if not more, as
>>>> stumped as I am!
>>>>
>>>> He set up a mac genious appointment at 10 tomorrow Arizona time to have
>>>> them look at the thing and try to install it themselves, but I'd still!
>>>> love to know if you all know what in the heck! caused this!
>>>>
>>>> This is totally perplexing the heck outta me!
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
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