[mac4theblind] Re: Welcome message
- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:54:40 -0400
I agree that all list needs some kind of guide lines to help guide them. I
especially like the rules of No bashing of anyone or any company. Opinions
and thoughts yes, but there is a fine line and when crossed can have
devastating symptoms. I n my thoughts and Opinion this is a great set of
rules that was given a lot of thought.
Sign,
Bubba
-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:37 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Welcome message
OK, below is a hastily created welcome message. Note that I am not, by
nature, a rules guy. I would rather not have to be specific about any set
rules, but I've been on enough lists over the last dozen plus years to know
that an unfortunate aspect of human nature is that it's best to have some
sort of list of guidelines. If there aren't any, well, that invites
trouble, so please see below. If you have any questions or comments or
suggestions, please feel free to email me off list. If you have list
experience and would possibly be interested in being a mod at some point,
please also let me know.
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WELCOME TO THE MAC4THEBLIND MAILING LIST.
This list is intended as a mailing list for discussing the use of the
Mac by blind users. Specifically, VoiceOver and related topics are always
welcomed. The topics of the iPod, iPhone and iPad are also open for
discussion as well. It is hoped that this list will provide yet another
source for blind Mac users to obtain help and advice for any technical
issues they might have. We understand perfectly well that there are other
lists that relate to these topics, and our intent is to simply provide yet
another place for users to come if they desire.
As for some basic rules or points of interest about the mac4theblind
mailing list:
1. Please note that this is not a Windows list. Although running
Windows via Boot Camp or in a virtual machine environment can be discussed,
those are the extent of such topics.
2. This is not a casual discussion list. There are other lists out
there for general discussions relating to a variety of subjects. Please
keep all post on topic as they relate to the Mac, VoiceOver and iDevices.
Many people are subscribed to multiple lists, and do not appreciate off
topic messages cluttering their inboxes. Please show respect by keeping all
posts on topic.
3. Any and All personal attacks directed at any list members are not
welcomed at all. Any member engaging in such behavior can be removed from
the list without warning. Topics can certainly become heated at times, but
we please ask that you show intelligence, restraint and tolerance in your
posts.
4. Cursing and other explicit language is also not tolerated. Adults or
not, there is no need or excuse for using foul language on a public list.
Ones use of four letter words and the like does not illustrate ones
intelligence or creativity. We hear enough of it in every day life, so we'd
appreciate not having it on this list. If you cannot control yourself, you
will be asked to tone it down or you will be removed from this list.
5. Please keep all posts substantive. Again, many people receive list
traffic from a variety of other lists. Messages that simply agree with a
previous post, thank another user with a simple, "thank you", or "thanks"
and one line comments are not productive or helpful. Please put thought
into your posts and make them count.
6. There is no such thing as a dumb question. Not asking a question is
dumb. Whether your are an experienced user or a new comer to the Mac and
iDevices, we welcome all questions. We want this list to be helpful and
useful, so even if a topic has come up a bunch of times, it might be new to
someone else who comes along.
7. If you are new to the Mac and iDevices, you might want to check out the
below sites for helpful information and tutorials.
http://www.apple.com/accessibility
http://www.maccessibility.net
http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
http://www.mac-access.net
http://www.applevis.com
8. Apple bashing or the bashing of other companies, including adaptive
technology companies and blindness organizations for the sake of bashing or
to stir up controversy is not acceptable here. No company is perfect and
the criticisms or displeasures one might find are perfectly fine, but keep
such comments in good taste and within reason. If there is a blatant
disrespect or simple bashing demonstrated in a post, the member will be
warned. If they persist along those lines, they will be removed from this
list. Again, many people are subscribed to many lists, so let's keep
subjects on topic and productive. Bashing serves no purpose at all.
9. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes
to their list subscription is:
//www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Once again,
we thank you for joining the mac4theblind list!
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
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