for those that are having trouble witht he page try this link instead. http://tffp.marrie.org/486 it is unshortned so I hope it works. Take care all and be blessed. ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx