What was causing me not to see the associated help text when I clicked on the "show" clickable object for the past couple of days turned out to be a simple thing. When I view web pages in the DOM (document object model) I can see the tex as expected. When I view the web pages using grouping I do not find the text. I assigned a key on my num-pad to toggle between these two modes. I'm sure that some day I'll learn how and when to use the group rather than the DOM view but for now I am happy! Thanks again to one and all. ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx