Jim, because if you have the VO keys locked down, then it's only usually the shift key you would have to actually put your finger on....says this new person who is hoping that's right! People who hate cats will come back as mice! ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx