Hi! Whether that is generally the case, for the greater part of my students, having students take a first year of regular chemistry would allow them to internalize more of the advanced ideas in the AP class. AP is so fast paced and content driven that there is little time to spend doing any of the type of instruction that I believe to be "Best Teaching Practice." We don't have AP at my school-instead students sign up for Honors Challenge-a set of standards that extend beyond the regular curriculum. When I teach about "Factors that Influence the Rates of Reactions" only those students are learning to use the quadratic to calculate equilibrium expressions, etc. Students that don't participate use Spec-20's for quantitative measurements in lab activities-Honors Chalenge students learn about Beer's Law., etc. I believe in the "Less is More" philosophy and have not had any complaints from my students who have taken Chem in college later on. The drive for AP courses in high school is bound up with many more objectives such as having a transcript look good-in terms of lasting knowledge I believe recent studies have shown that having an AP chem course in college is not a predictor for advanced achievement. It would be interesting to see what correlation there is for students that took both a regular and AP course is.... Regards Dave Crockett ----- Original Message ----- From: Meledath Govindan To: neact@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [neact] AP Chemistry Dear Colleagues, Perhaps you can enlighten me regarding my question about AP Chemistry. I was of the impression that AP chemistry is generally taught after the students have taken a year of chemistry. Is this true? I know at least one school system where AP Chemistry is taught in lieu of an Honors Chemistry and students have been struggling. As a result, not many are signing up for that course and dropping down to the next level, where they (otherwise honors students) are not being challenged. I would appreciate receiving some feedback from my HS chemistry colleagues. Thanks. Mel Meledath Govindan, Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry Fitchburg State College 160 Pearl St. Fitchburg, MA 01420 (978)-665-3628 (Office) (978)-665-3578 (FAX)