[raspberry-vi] Re: Voxin
- From: Jason Miller <hobbgoblin79@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:06:20 -0400
Hello.
I don't know all the details, but here is how it is, as I am to
understand. We all know the elequents voice from JFW as sounding close
to what IBMTTS/IBM Via Voice is. The difference is this though, again,
from what I understand. IBM has licensed the voices to different
companies. Companies like FS have taken the voices, and kept slight
updates on them, as that is what their licensing agreements cover. Where
as Voxin, only has the rights to redistribute the voices. That's all
their license with IBM covers, and Voxin doesn't actually have the code
for the voice, but they update their packages and scripts to run on the
newer systems. Also, from what I understand, is since Voxin doesn't
actually own the voice to modify, and IBM hasn't given the source code
to anyone in the FOS world, the elequents voices you use haven't
actually been worked on, touched or fixed in about a decade. The actual
voice code uses what is now considered ancient libraries and packages to
support it, so it's actually pretty much like running legacy software on
your machine.
I'm sure more can be googled about the whole thing that's going on with
Voxin, but at least for now, that's a brief explination of why it's so
cheap to purchase, you're only buying or paying for a redistribution of
something not worked on in forever.
Jason Miller
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On 03/16/2013 08:26 PM, John G. Heim wrote:
> I wonder what the relationship is between the voxin voice and the eloquence
> voice used by jaws. As you noted, they sound exactly alike. IBM isn't going o
> make any money selling voxin. But they might still be making money off
> eloquence if there is some relationship there.
>
> I'm President of the International Association of Visually Impaired
> Technologists (www.iavit.org). I'm willing to lead an effort to try to get
> IBM to release the source code for voxin. The people on the orca list would
> probably be interested in this too.
>
> On Mar 16, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Glenn wrote:
>
>> I haven't heard back from them yet.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:50 PM
>> Subject: [raspberry-vi] Re: Voxin
>>
>>
>> Did they say there was any possibility at all of porting it to the RP? I
>> don't know how that would be technically possible. They don't have the
>> source code, how are they going to port it? You'd think it was technically
>> possible, they'd have already recompiled it to Intel 64 bit architecture.
>> IBM could probably port it. Maybe the oralux people could talk to IBM about
>> it. But beyond that, I don't think there is much oralux can do. What we
>> should really do is try to get IBM to release the source code for voxin.
>> Hello, IBM, do you realize this is 2013?
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I contacted Oralux about making Voxin available for Raspbian and/or Arch,
>>> and although it may never happen, if you have purchased Voxin before, or
>>> would do so in the future, you might wish to contact them.
>>> Their contact info is:
>>> contact@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> For anyone who does not know what Voxin is, it is the voice that sounds
>>> like
>>> Eloquence in JFW or NVDA or Windoweyes. It is also known as ViaVoice.
>>> I think it is about 6 dollars.
>>> The home page is:
>>> http://voxin.oralux.net/index.php
>>> Glenn
>>>
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