According to some genetic research that was done on southern Appalachian ravens, our ravens are genetically identical to other ravens in North America (except for a population in sw US). More data is needed before a final conclusion should be made though. I have been out checking on raven nests. The following is information that I have gathered in the last three weeks: On 4-6-02, I re-located the raven nest in Shady Valley. This nest was found last year by Troy Ettel and myself. There was no new material added to the nest, in fact, much of the nest material was at the base of the cliff. At one point, I witnessed a Red-tailed Hawk following a screaming raven. The raven got above the hawk and began mobbing it. Later, the raven came back and started "scolding" me. I left the nest site to get a better angle. I saw at least one young in the nest. There were possibly two. Only one adult raven was seen. This is an abberation to what I believe is normal. I always see two adults at the nest especially when they are scolding an intruder. I looked along the roads for a dead raven but found none. Also on 4-6, I climbed to the fire tower on Doe Mountain WMA. A nest was reported on the tower last year. There was no nest or any sign of a nest. I must have misunderstood the location. Of note: three male sapsuckers were displaying to each other at the fire tower. No females seen. I visited the Watauga Limestone Quarry nest on 4-29 to find no ravens during my half hour visit. On 4-29, I visited Doe River Gorge to find no ravens during my one hour visit. On 4-29, I visited a nest in Carter County to find two adults and young in the nest. On 4-30, I visited a nest in Unicoi County to find the nest empty. This nest was first found in 1999. The nest had young every year except for this year since. On 4-30, I visited the Rocky Fork nest to see one adult going to the nest area. I re-visited this nest on 5-7. No raven was seen in the nest vicinity, but I only watched for 12 minutes (this is not enough time for any confirmation). The Devil's Looking Glass Nest has ravens going to the nest. A nest site in the Smokies has ravens at the nest. Summary: of the 8 known nests visited, 5 most likely have young. I need to visit a few more sites. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net Owner: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx (423) 764-3958 =========================================================