Friends, Photos, even pretty good ones, don't always accurately portray a bird. My impression, as Michael mentioned, was that both Plovers looked good for Black-bellied, just from the photos. If this bird was seen in flight or with a wing up, etc, and was clearly a Golden, I wouldn't be shocked. But, if I was sent those photos and someone just said what do you think.....I would think Black-bellied. The challenge of birding, got to love it! Birds can be so subjective from one observer to the next, structurally I think it is better for Black-bellied as well. I've found the extent of that dark smudge behind the eye to be pretty variable across the North American Pluvialis ( no experience with Eurasian Golden). Mike Todd McKenzie, Tn On Monday, September 29, 2014 7:45 AM, michael sledjeski <mbsledjeski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Mike Todd emailed after my post yesterday. He thinks the plover identified as American-Golden is a second Black-bellied, based on "indistinct cap, fairly short primaries, white bellies, very cold plumage tones". Leslie and I called it a Golden based on finer head, neck and bill, plus the conspicuous smudge behind the eye. The cap seemed darker in the flesh. I wanted to stay for better photos and watch for the black axillaries in flight, but we were already late for dinner with friends. Michael Sledjeski Del Rio TN