[TN-Bird] Re: Upper Douglas Lake - Plovers
- From: Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Mike Todd <birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:30:56 -0500
For what it's worth, I agree with Mike. Both look like Black-bellied to me
based on the photos. Particularly, the heavy bill base tapering to the tip
is a good structural clue.
Chris Sloan
Nashville, TN
On Sep 29, 2014 10:48 AM, "Michael Todd" <birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> Photos, even pretty good ones, don't always accurately portray a bird. My
> impression, as Michael mentioned, was that both Plovers looked good for
> Black-bellied, just from the photos. If this bird was seen in flight or
> with a wing up, etc, and was clearly a Golden, I wouldn't be shocked. But,
> if I was sent those photos and someone just said what do you think.....I
> would think Black-bellied. The challenge of birding, got to love it! Birds
> can be so subjective from one observer to the next, structurally I think it
> is better for Black-bellied as well. I've found the extent of that dark
> smudge behind the eye to be pretty variable across the North American
> Pluvialis ( no experience with Eurasian Golden).
>
> Mike Todd
> McKenzie, Tn
>
>
> On Monday, September 29, 2014 7:45 AM, michael sledjeski <
> mbsledjeski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Mike Todd emailed after my post yesterday. He thinks the plover
> identified as American-Golden is a second Black-bellied, based on
> "indistinct cap, fairly short primaries, white bellies, very cold plumage
> tones". Leslie and I called it a Golden based on finer head, neck and
> bill, plus the conspicuous smudge behind the eye. The cap seemed darker in
> the flesh.
> I wanted to stay for better photos and watch for the black axillaries in
> flight, but we were already late for dinner with friends.
>
>
>
> Michael Sledjeski
> Del Rio TN
>
>
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