Did this trainer play music and have goofy games on it? And it looked kinda like et? If I recall correctly? Played yankee doddle or oh suzanna if I recall or Was it a serious computer? From: torontocbm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:torontocbm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of STEVE GRAY Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:46 PM To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [torontocbm] Re: Just wondering, has anyone in the group... I have heard of the ELF but never used one. My first "computer" was a Radio Shack "trainer" with hex keypad, two-digit LED and a 4x4 matrix LED "screen"... My first REAL computer was an Ohio Scientific (OSI) C4P..... 6502 @ 1MHz, 8K ram, BASIC in ROM, cassette storage and 16-colour 64x32 character text-only video... Bought in 1981. It was closely based on the earlier OSI "SuperBoard II" single-board-computer. That held me for a while, while I learned 6502 assembly language. We used PET 4032's at school and a Wang system with card-reader. Steve From: "Miraglia, Walter" <Walter.Miraglia@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 1:20:19 PM Subject: [torontocbm] Just wondering, has anyone in the group.... Ever messed around with COSMAC ELF? RCA 1802 based micro computer chip. I’m in the process of building an ELF 2000 From www.sparetimegizmos.com<http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/> and wondered If anyone shared my passion for these old so called “Single Board Computers…” I built an ELF II with pixie chip and 2K of ram when I was in Grade 10. In keeping with my interest in Early home computers, I was wondering what everyone’s first computer was… Mine was the above mentioned Elf that I built from scratch… ( Incidentally, I will have with me the circuit board and manual for the ELF 2000 tonight at the meeting if anyone is interested in seeing it… I just got it today so it’s totally bare….. )