[torontocbm] Re: uIEC/SD comments

  • From: "danielkovacs" <danielkovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:59:18 -0500

Thanks for the information, Jim.  I think I spent a bit more
on soldering stuff that I had planned.  Soldering to the
underside of the board sounds like the easiest thing to do,
I think that's how I will do it.  I don't plan on removing
the header that provides the connection to the card.  I
picked up some nice brass bolts to fasten the board to the
case (The bolts will be visible so I wanted it to look
pretty).

Does anyone have any comments on the plastic used by
Commodore in the cases?  Is it easy to cut?  I have a
dremel-style took I will be using.

Dan

From: Jim Brain <brain@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [torontocbm] uIEC/SD comments
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:24:51 -0600

----- Original Message Follows -----
> I thought I'd help out with some questions here:
>
>     * Cat5 cable is fine.
>     * copper is preferred, but I wouldn;t drive across
> town for it.  The
>       oxidation aspect (which is why Cu and Al are not
> mixed in power
>       line applications) is not a major factor in this
> case
>     * Shielded is always preferred.
>     * Buy Rosin core solder.  Make sure you do not get
> "acid" core (Yes,
>       rosin is an acid, but acid core is much more acidic)
>     * If you solder to the 1x13 black connector, any of
> the usual
>       soldering pencils are fine.  As Tom notes, less
> exposure is best.
>       25W to 35W seems to be the norm here.  I would
> encourage you to
>       solder to that connector rather than remove the
> right angle header
>       (at least until your unit gets programmed with the
> bootloader.
>       After that, anything goes)
>     * You should not need flux for just wire soldering.
> The trick is to
>       strip the wire a bit, twist the exposed wire (if
> stranded), hold
>       the iron to the exposed wire, and then touch the
> solder to the
>       wire (not the iron).  Let the solder melt a bit on
> the wire (the
>       flux is in the middle of the solder, so it needs a
> bit of time to
>       get to the wire to clean it) and then pull the
> solder and iron.
>       Then, insert the nicely "tinned" wire into the hole
> or on the
>       connector and tap it with the soldering iron
>     * I'm always interested in what does not work.
>     * To that end, I'm at brain@xxxxxxxxxx, and the uIEC
> mailing list is
>       at www.jimbrain.com/projects/uIEC/subscribe.html
>     * I would not remove the IEC connector from the 64
> unless you need
>       that hole for a mod.  You can safely solder the
> wires to the back
>       of the connector, or on the bottom of the
> motherboard.
>     * I would not try connecting the uIEC to the serial
> port without
>       power.  Without proper power, the unit essentially
> backfeeds and
>       pulls power from ATN, SRQ, DATA, CLK, and RESET
> through the pullup
>       resistors on the VIC/64/128.  But, the power is very
> unstable, not
>       sent to the VCC of the uC, and is not 5V.  That is
> why many
>       devices appears to partially work with no power
> connected.  If the
>       goal is to enable/disable, You could install a
> single switch on
>       the ATN line into the uIEC to "mute" it.  But, if
> you bring out
>       the "FWD/BACK" buttons from the connector (pin 8 and
> 9), you can
>       press them at the same time to silence the device
> (press and hold,
>       as I recall)
>
> I encourage folks to ask these questions on the uIEC list
> as well.
>
> Jim
>
>

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