[vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:27:11 +0100

Hi Tony,

To make the JAWS cursor follow the PC cursor, hit ctrl+insert+numpad [or 
numpad minus] - ctrl + route JAWS to PC - which is a toggle between "JAWS 
cursor will follow/will not follow the PC cursor".  If JAWS says, upon that 
key combo, "JAWS cursor will follow the PC cursor" you are 'good to go', so 
you should then get your result as you desired.  .

Now, before Paul gets to work, in the interim, here are a few prelim notes 
on mouse-clicks.

-- Singl-left-click is similar to making a selection; sometimes used to make 
checkmarks;
single right-click is much the same as accessing the _Context menu_ - 
whatever is defined as the 'context menu' at the point of reference - also 
shift+F10 on the keyboard.
Double left-click is much the same as hitting the ENTER key, or spacebar (to 
ok a dialogue.)

[Correspondences between the physical mouse and JAWS mouse emulation aare 
approximate, not always exact]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor


Hi Flor,  Thank you for sending that!

Now what I would like would be an easy to understand tutorial on the subject
say for example explaining certain terms such as, active cursor,  or,
invisible cursor,  along with say a simple explanation of the mouse keys
such as,  right click, left click, and double clicking!!

It is probably simple enough for some of us but for those new to
screenreaders and who may never have used the mouse before it may not
initially be all that simple!

I am still wondering that when I route Jaws to PC I am not where I was
before, say if I was checking the spelling of say a name in the, from,
field of an email, I can't do that but when I route Jaws to PC it loses
focus of where I was with that email, although I do finally find the email
and the the name in the, from, field and get the spelling that way!
eventually!!

I have for example Mcafee installed and to do a scan I have to route Jaws to
PC and then press the left mouse button and it then scans for me!

The advantages of for example routing jaws to PC would be good to learn!

There are a number of advantages  in changing focus at times , which would
be good to have explained more!

Looking forward to more on this subject, and Paul's mentioned tutorial too
when he gets the chance to so do!

Thanks again.

Perhaps now we should all await Paul's tutorial on the subject which should
be another cracker!!

Tony.
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:42 AM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor


> Hi Tony,
>
> You would not often have to route PC to JAWS - or at least, I hope not so
> often - but if you need to access say the Next button and it was not
> otherwise accessible, you would do this.  (Some situations in Microsoft
> Access may warrant this usage.)
> And here's a yet more detailed piece from the JAWS Help system, that
> wonderful fount of knowledge!  Remember, anybody:  You can use the Search
> facility provided by JAWS within JAWS hel Topics.  [If you press ctrl+tab,
> you will come to an Index editfield; press it again, and you will come to
a
> search editfield.  Here, type in your search term - no need for quotes,
just
> the word(s) you want to look up.
>
> Additional Notes on JAWS Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
> PC Cursor (NUM PAD PLUS)
> This command changes the active cursor to the PC cursor.
> JAWS Cursor (NUM PAD MINUS)
> This command changes the active cursor to the JAWS cursor.
>
> Invisible Cursor (NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly)
> This command changes the active cursor to the Invisible cursor.
>
> Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor (INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS)
> This command moves the PC Cursor to the location of the JAWS Cursor. This
> command has no effect if the JAWS Cursor is in a part of the application
> that will not support the PC Cursor.
>
> Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor (INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS)
> This command moves the JAWS Cursor to the location of the PC Cursor. If
the
> Invisible Cursor is active when this keystroke is used, the Invisible
Cursor
> is moved to the location of the PC Cursor.
>
> Tether JAWS to PC (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS)
> This command causes the JAWS Cursor to follow the PC Cursor as it moves
> around the screen. Press the command twice quickly to save this setting
> across sessions.
>
> Restrict JAWS Cursor (INSERT+R)
> This command toggles restriction levels for the JAWS and Invisible
cursors.
> There are four levels of restriction. Application Window Restriction
> restricts the JAWS or Invisible cursors to the current application window.
> Current Window Restriction restricts the JAWS or Invisible cursors to the
> current window. This is very useful in a text box or a window with
multiple
> panes displaying information. Frame restriction restricts the JAWS or
> Invisible Cursors to the current frame. Unrestricted removes all
> restrictions on movement of the JAWS or Invisible cursors within the
display
> area.
>
> Left Mouse Button (NUM PAD SLASH)
> This command simulates a single left mouse button click. Press the command
> twice quickly to simulate a left mouse button double click.
>
> Right Mouse Button (NUM PAD STAR)
> This command simulates a single right mouse button click. Press the
command
> twice quickly to simulate a right mouse button double click.
>
> Left Mouse Button Lock (INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH)
> This command simulates pressing down the left mouse button and holding it.
> Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the arrow keys. JAWS will
> not speak until INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH is pressed again to unlock the left
> mouse button. This command can be used to drag items from one location and
> drop them in another.
>
> Right Mouse Button Lock (INSERT+NUM PAD STAR)
> This command simulates pressing down the right mouse button and holding
it.
> Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the arrow keys. JAWS will
> not speak until INSERT+NUM PAD STAR is pressed again to unlock the right
> mouse button. This command can be used to drag items from one location and
> drop them in another. When the command is pressed a second time to unlock
> the right mouse button, a menu may appear with options such as Copy Here,
> Move Here, and Create Shortcut Here.
>
> Drag and Drop (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH)
> This command is used to drag items from one location and drop them in
> another. Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
> CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you
can
> switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you
> have positioned the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would
> like to move the item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item
> will be moved to the position of the active cursor.
>
> Say Active Cursor (ALT+DELETE)
> This command says the name of the active cursor and its position in
pixels.
> When working in certain programs (such as word processors, text editors,
and
> e-mail) with the PC Cursor, JAWS may announce the column and row position
> instead. In addition, JAWS announces the percentage of the current
document
> you have moved or read through.
>
> Tip: If JAWS announces the row and column position of the PC Cursor, and
you
> want to hear the position in pixels instead, press NUM PAD MINUS to switch
> to the JAWS Cursor, then press INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS to route the JAWS
Cursor
> to the PC Cursor. Press ALT+DELETE again to hear the position in pixels.
>
> Say Cursor Type (CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+C)
> This command announces the shape of the current mouse cursor.
>
>
>
>       Back
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "albertbrown" <albertbrown@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:15 PM
> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
>
>
> Hello Tony,
> here is a piece I copied from the jaws help manual concerning the jaws and
> pc cursors.
> I hope this is what you are looking for.
> Bert
>
> About JAWS Cursors
>
>
>
> About JAWS Cursors
>
>
>
> Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
> cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
> with Windows
>
> cursors.
>
>
>
> The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
>
>
>
> This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
applications.
> This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
> options
>
> in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type information,
> the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you are making a
> selection
>
> in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the currently selected
> object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are
> using
>
> a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
>
>
>
> The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
>
>
>
> The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
> applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
such
> as
>
> toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it
is
> moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
window
>
> that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS Cursor,
> press NUM PAD MINUS.
>
>
>
> The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
>
>
>
> The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
> activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
> speaks the
>
> number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the frame. You
> can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by alt tags in
> the
>
> HTML code.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:56 PM
> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
>
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > That would be very much appreciated not only by myself but by others
also
> > I'm sure!
> >
> > Tony.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Paul Traynor" <paul.traynor@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:25 AM
> > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
> >
> >
> >> Hi Tony,
> >>
> >> Thats a good idea, I will try and pull something together on it soon.
> >>
> >> Paul.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney
> >> Sent: 16 April 2008 00:17
> >> To: students list
> >> Subject: [vip_students] Using The Jaws Cursor
> >>
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> Welcome back!
> >>
> >> Trust that another couple of weeks honeymoon would have been in order!!
> >>
> >> No, not getting at you!
> >>
> >> Now trust I haven't missed this, but I wonder if you would so kindly at
> > your
> >> leisure do a mini-tutorial on the effective use of the mouse cursor and
> > it's
> >> benefits!
> >>
> >> Also I wonder about the "PC to to Jaws, & Jaws to PC?
> >>
> >> which is  of course too a great benefit!
> >>
> >> Happy nuptials to you & your good wife!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Tony.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date:
> > 15/04/2008
> >> 18:10
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date:
> > 15/04/2008
> >> 18:10
> >>
> >>
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